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Title: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on June 29, 2011, 12:18:34 AM
We need to have something that will allow
Regs, and VIP's to see who posted a spray..
Many people have porn Sprays and Vip's or Regs can not Report the user becuase they do not know exactly who sprayed the spray... Im saying this because i have a little Brother and Sister, (sis-2, bro-4) and they are ALWAYS watching when i play a game (unless they are playing SNES or are asleep), once i see a porn spray i really try to stay away from it so that they dont see it... It would be really good to have this feature so that Vip's can just kick someone and make them change there spray
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Wafflepiezz on June 29, 2011, 08:39:00 AM
Hm, good idea
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: StartedBullet on June 29, 2011, 08:52:44 AM
We need to have something that will allow
Regs, and VIP's to see who posted a spray..
Many people have porn Sprays and Vip's or Regs can not Report the user becuase they do not know exactly who sprayed the spray... Im saying this because i have a little Brother and Sister, (sis-2, bro-4) and they are ALWAYS watching when i play a game (unless they are playing SNES or are asleep), once i see a porn spray i really try to stay away from it so that they dont see it... It would be really good to have this feature so that Vip's can just kick someone and make them change there spray

I've been wanting this since one sick fucker sprayed child porn. +1
There is no harm that can be caused by regs+ ( Or atleast VIPS ) seeing spray owners, really.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: ursus on June 29, 2011, 09:07:43 AM
This has already been talked about, coolz has seen the requests, but for whatever reason doesn't seem to want to do it...
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on June 29, 2011, 12:04:31 PM
I like this idea  :thumbsup:

Hope you look at this Coolz, please? :D
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Deathie on June 29, 2011, 12:51:57 PM
Like Gamefreak said, it HAS been suggested multiple times before. IDK why coolz hasn't added it though .-.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Dale Feles on June 29, 2011, 02:19:17 PM
COOLZ

FUCKING

ADD IT ALREADY!

No, but seriously, sometimes I see people spraying VERY and I mean VERY nasty stuff, sometimes including child porn (Which is illegal btw).

This would be easier to find and report people spraying these kind of things.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Alkaline on June 29, 2011, 02:44:05 PM
The only solution I see, for the siblings:

Escape > Options > Multiplayer Tab > Disable Sprays


I do this because I am just tired of the pron.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: coolzeldad on July 14, 2011, 05:32:07 PM
Almost any spray including porn sprays are allowed.. the exceptions are child pornography and the like.

There would be a problem with reporting child pornography sprays, etc. Screenshots? :|

If it is implemented it would be for VIP not regular, as VIP would actually be able to handle it ingame..

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on July 14, 2011, 05:33:58 PM
Almost any spray including porn sprays are allowed.. the exceptions are child pornography and the like.

There would be a problem with reporting child pornography sprays, etc. Screenshots? :|

If it is implemented it would be for VIP not regular, as VIP would actually be able to handle it ingame..

Thoughts?

Put it only for VIP, too many idiots that are regular....No offense to you guys ;_;

I thought porn sprays WEREN'T allowed...
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Don on July 14, 2011, 05:36:11 PM
If it is implemented it would be for VIP not regular, as VIP would actually be able to handle it ingame..

Thoughts?

I think it'd be helpful for VIPs to see who sprayed sprays.
So yeah.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Minic on July 14, 2011, 05:37:17 PM
The only solution I see, for the siblings:

Escape > Options > Multiplayer Tab > Disable Sprays


I do this because I am just tired of the pron.



I'd like to add you can also bind a key to r_cleardecals - example: bind p r_cleardecals

That will remove any sprays, blood, bullet holes etc. This way you get the best of both worlds, don't have to totally disable it, and they can still be cleared quickly if need be.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: ursus on July 14, 2011, 05:41:47 PM

I'd like to add you can also bind a key to r_cleardecals - example: bind p r_cleardecals

That will remove any sprays, blood, bullet holes etc. This way you get the best of both worlds, don't have to totally disable it, and they can still be cleared quickly if need be.

if I may interject

i think you have to hit it twice to remove sprays

this may have changed

i have it bound to "n"
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Ἆxule on July 14, 2011, 06:39:30 PM
Almost any spray including porn sprays are allowed.. the exceptions are child pornography and the like.

There would be a problem with reporting child pornography sprays, etc. Screenshots? :|

If it is implemented it would be for VIP not regular, as VIP would actually be able to handle it ingame..

Thoughts?

What could Regulars do to screw up knowing who sprayed what? I can't think of any atm.
What if there are no VIP's on at the time, and when you call one over, don't get back in time before the round ends or the like (ttt).
I don't really see any harm in letting Regs see who sprayed it. It'd give them a chance to SS it to report and such.

Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on July 14, 2011, 06:42:15 PM
What could Regulars do to screw up knowing who sprayed what? I can't think of any atm.
What if there are no VIP's on at the time, and when you call one over, don't get back in time before the round ends or the like (ttt).
I don't really see any harm in letting Regs see who sprayed it. It'd give them a chance to SS it to report and such.

"Child pornography" OHGODNO

The way that regulars can use that in a bad manner, is, for example: Someone sprays something that the regular does not like, they then will start saying things to the person who sprayed it. I am not going to use any terms for this because I am fairly certain that you know what they could possibly say.

VIPs are trusted enough (from what I've seen) to not be immature and idiotic like that, they don't judge people based on their opinions and preferences, unlike some of the others do.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Ἆxule on July 14, 2011, 06:44:36 PM
"Child pornography" OHGODNO

The way that regulars can use that in a bad manner, is, for example: Someone sprays something that the regular does not like, they then will start saying things to the person who sprayed it. I am not going to use any terms for this because I am fairly certain that you know what they could possibly say.

VIPs are trusted enough (from what I've seen) to not be immature and idiotic like that, they don't judge people based on their opinions and preferences, unlike some of the others do.

Ahh, I see. Okay, thanks for the info.
Disregard what I said.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Deathie on July 14, 2011, 07:28:24 PM
Almost any spray including porn sprays are allowed.. the exceptions are child pornography and the like.

Why?

If Child Pornography is bannable due to being an actual illegal offense, porn sprays should be too.

It's illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to view pornographic materials.

Garry's Mod is a sandbox game with no rating. Anyone can buy/play the game.

You're forcing these people to be exposed to pornographic material.

I know people view this content either way, but the same laws and restrictions apply. Child Pornography is porn of anyone under the age of 18. The word "child" is just used to signify a minor.



Plus, people have been banned before for porn sprays. Use Hard Gay as an example.

I don't need to see furfag dogs fucking each other in the ass while I try to play Zombie Survival.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Deacon on July 14, 2011, 07:32:41 PM
Why?

If Child Pornography is bannable due to being an actual illegal offense, porn sprays should be too.

It's illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to view pornographic materials.

Garry's Mod is a sandbox game with no rating. Anyone can buy/play the game.

You're forcing these people to be exposed to pornographic material.

I know people view this content either way, but the same laws and restrictions apply. Child Pornography is porn of anyone under the age of 18. The word "child" is just used to signify a minor.



Plus, people have been banned before for porn sprays. Use Hard Gay as an example.

I don't need to see furfag dogs fucking each other in the ass while I try to play Zombie Survival.


You know what, I'll join this argument.

I don't like seeing porn in the servers (yes, personal opinion)
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Cake Faice on July 14, 2011, 08:11:50 PM
It's illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to view pornographic materials.

Garry's Mod is a sandbox game with no rating. Anyone can buy/play the game.

You're forcing these people to be exposed to pornographic material.

Brb, fapping.

But I sorta could care less if people are forced to see pornographic material. But having porn sprays really...degrades the value of the servers and takes out the professionalism. It just gives us all the image that we're hyper-sexualized people.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Deathie on July 14, 2011, 08:13:47 PM
Brb, fapping.

But I sorta could care less if people are forced to see pornographic material. But having porn sprays really...degrades the value of the servers and takes out the professionalism. It just gives us all the image that we're hyper-sexualized people.

You missed my point.

Child Pornography sprays are bannable due to the fact they're illegal.

So is exposing minors to any pornography, yet it's allowed.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Seb on July 14, 2011, 10:03:53 PM
coolz doesn't implement it because
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Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Hotgreensoldier on July 14, 2011, 10:08:07 PM
coolz doesn't allow it because
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That....Makes no sense whatsoever.

As for the "Porn sprays allowed/not allowed." debate, it's true that it's illegal for people under the age of 18 to view pornographic material. Since child pornography is not allowed since it's illegal, why would regular pornography be allowed since it's illegal for people under the age of 18 to see it? A large amount of us are under the age of 18, so...Yeah...
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Mr. Franklin on July 14, 2011, 10:30:11 PM
about what coolz said, you can report them, and its the person's responsibility to post a screenshot. If not, then it is there own fault for letting the person get away.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Deathie on July 14, 2011, 10:39:50 PM
about what coolz said, you can report them, and its the person's responsibility to post a screenshot. If not, then it is there own fault for letting the person get away.

You don't understand.

That's the problem.

You're not able to prove a spray belongs to someone with a screenshot, nor are you ever able to even be 100% sure it's their spray.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: coolzeldad on July 14, 2011, 10:51:09 PM
No, by playing online you agree to terms of service that gameplay changes online.

This implies mature content is possible in the game.

The agreement waves legality issues but child pornography laws still surpass all jurisdiction in almost any country.

Child pornography is illegal content at all times while other pornography is mature content (associated with an age based audience)
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on July 14, 2011, 10:59:33 PM
No, by playing online you agree to terms of service that gameplay changes online.

This implies mature content is possible in the game.

The agreement waves legality issues but child pornography laws still surpass all jurisdiction in almost any country.

Child pornography is illegal content at all times while other pornography is mature content (associated with an age based audience)

Hmmmm that is true.. They do say "may change during online experience" or something like that but once again... Why have people in the past been Demoted, and even (i remember Moo did this) banned from the servers





I'd like to add you can also bind a key to r_cleardecals - example: bind p r_cleardecals

That will remove any sprays, blood, bullet holes etc. This way you get the best of both worlds, don't have to totally disable it, and they can still be cleared quickly if need be.

Also thanks :) i think ill use this
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: ·UηİŦ·· on July 14, 2011, 11:10:05 PM
This topic bares some srs importance.

It needs to be settled soon. I honestly would like a positive result.

I'd say maybe we should, just for the sake of "because it's better to be safe than sorry" (and also because someone could purposely :trollface: and spray said offensive sprays(ChPr) and immediately quit... however you probably would know who it is if they come back with the same IP but you get where I'm going with that example).

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Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Deathie on July 14, 2011, 11:15:17 PM
No.

I enjoy being able to play on a server without seeing furry dicks everywhere, and I don't want to be forced to constantly clear decals or be unable to see everyone else's sprays.

Why can't porn sprays be a bannable offense? People have been kicked/banned for it multiple times before.

It's something I strongly disagree with, and don't want to subject others to.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: coolzeldad on July 15, 2011, 11:14:31 AM
Hmmmm that is true.. They do say "may change during online experience" or something like that but once again... Why have people in the past been Demoted, and even (i remember Moo did this) banned from the servers

It is always up to an admin's discretion to decide whether or not the spray is bannable.

There could be legitimate issues with a certain spray.

Normally people that are banned were asked once not to spray said spray again but they spray it again.

I enjoy being able to play on a server without seeing furry dicks everywhere, and I don't want to be forced to constantly clear decals or be unable to see everyone else's sprays.

Why can't porn sprays be a bannable offense? People have been kicked/banned for it multiple times before.

Because if you say that, anything outside of a person's tolerance is a possible bannable offense, basically implementing aggressive censorship because of your own intolerance with certain spray subject matter.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Deathie on July 15, 2011, 12:04:52 PM
Because if you say that, anything outside of a person's tolerance is a possible bannable offense, basically implementing aggressive censorship because of your own intolerance with certain spray subject matter.

I think calling it aggressive censorship is a bit, well uh.

Aggressive.

You know everyone wants a clean server. Why shouldn't we make them kickable?

Spray it once, get a warning.
Spray it again, votekick.

If it becomes a constant problem (like how hard gay was), then you can just make a report on it.

It's not just "porn" being sprayed on the servers, it's all these troll/trap sprays.
Earlier, I saw a spray with a shemale being fucked by a yellow wolf thing ._.

I have been kicking for porn sprays, and that's how I usually followed it. If it included any actual nudity, I'd give them a warning. If they run off and spray it again just "for teh lulz", then I'd start a votekick on them.

They usually stop when I ask them, but sometimes I can't find the person whose spraying it, and would do it constantly across the maps.

Please, it's not only me who feels this way.
Can we at least do some sort of community vote on it?



I at least would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: coolzeldad on July 15, 2011, 01:27:15 PM
I think calling it aggressive censorship is a bit, well uh.

Aggressive.

Just calling it exactly what it is.

You are intolerant of what they are spraying, where legality is not a question, and want an administrative response.

I have been kicking for porn sprays, and that's how I usually followed it. If it included any actual nudity, I'd give them a warning. If they run off and spray it again just "for teh lulz", then I'd start a votekick on them.

They usually stop when I ask them, but sometimes I can't find the person whose spraying it, and would do it constantly across the maps.

Please, it's not only me who feels this way.
Can we at least do some sort of community vote on it?

This is how sprays have been handled so far, by admin/vip discretion.

If the spray at the time is deemed problematic, a warning is issued and if it repeats the person receives a ban, regardless of the content.

It is handled case by case as there is no concrete rule for censoring spray content.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Seb on July 15, 2011, 02:02:08 PM
So it's a rule, just it's not specifically written in?
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Deathie on July 15, 2011, 02:13:50 PM
So it's a rule, just it's not specifically written in?

More like

"It's fine if nobody complains about it."

If the spray itself is causing a problem, regardless of what it is, then it's a different story.
Title: Re: Zombie Survival-Sprayer name
Post by: Travelsonic on July 17, 2011, 08:47:04 AM
Hope then we don't get new players whom are offended by a fat egg shaped man with a long mustache and goofy smile in a hovercraft.

[I'm actually surprised we haven't gotten parents angrily shouting over the mic when their little kids, whom probably shouldn't even be on TTT/ZS/etc, log on to play and some of the shenannigans echo acorss their speakers. ]