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Title: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 27, 2011, 09:58:18 AM
1. SteamID: STEAM_0:0:2255757

2. Players Nickname - tomm shot de bawbaww

3. Your in-game name - tomm shot de bawbaww

4. Server name (Wirebuild, Zombie Survival) - TTT

5. Description of the event(s)

   I was getting rather agitated by Tezuni randomly accusing/rdming people (his karma was quite low, but he was getting other people to kill for him) and so one round I decided to RDM Tezuni back (note: I do not have Tezuni's steamid and yes I recognize that I should NOT have RDM'd him)
   As soon as the round ended it was discovered that Tezuni was the traitor and the admin that was present (Teeny) banned me for "Hacking" because someone had accused me earlier of having "Traitor Hacks" after I revenge RDM'd him previously and Teeny was called on.

6. Reason for appeal

   I was not hacking! I just got lucky a few times and happened to RDM a traitor. Yes RDMing them was wrong and if unbanned I will refrain from RDMing at all in the future.
   I will leave the enforcement of the rules to the admins instead of taking it into my own hands, I'm sorry.
   I have never been banned before and have always tried to play by the rules, I broke them this time and once again I apologize.
7. I have no demo's or screenshots

8.http://sourcebans.randomgs.com/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:2255757&advType=steamid&Submit (http://sourcebans.randomgs.com/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:2255757&advType=steamid&Submit)
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: biggaybaby on May 27, 2011, 10:02:56 AM
Although I have 0 posts here and I registered an account yesterday to start reading the forums and possibly posting, I would like to say that in between the time that Tomm was accused of "Traitor Hacks" by  I believe Sakura and the time Tezuni was RDM'd he played very respectably and did not RDM at all. We went through maybe 3-4 maps in that time and I do not believe he was hacking, maybe just being a bit of a douche.

Also: I hope my name isn't offensive to anyone, I just use this quite a bit in-game
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 27, 2011, 11:45:35 AM
Permanent ban for revenge killing is over the top! I'm sorry!!
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: bipolardiz on May 27, 2011, 01:31:09 PM
Permanent ban for revenge killing is over the top! I'm sorry!!

The reasoning is hacking not revenge.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 27, 2011, 06:47:08 PM
omg! i didnt hack, id get vac ban and would rather not risk that. he was making me mad previously so i just randomly shot him point blank with a shotgun! hacking is gay
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: memo3300 on May 27, 2011, 06:52:36 PM
A screenshot of yours bin folders would help...
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 27, 2011, 07:04:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/H06x4.png (http://i.imgur.com/H06x4.png)

both bins . . . i dont mind providing things.

still though i was banned with no screenshot or videos. . .
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: memo3300 on May 27, 2011, 07:09:26 PM
wait for an admin to see this, they usually ask bins folders to see if you were hacking or not.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Sabb on May 27, 2011, 07:13:10 PM
TBH, I don't see how screenshotting your bin folder is going to prove anything, they can jsut move the hacks out then put them back in :/.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: YomoFox on May 27, 2011, 07:19:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3oSgN.png (http://i.imgur.com/3oSgN.png)

both bins . . . i dont mind providing things.

still though i was banned with no screenshot or videos. . .

give me wallpaper
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Seb on May 27, 2011, 07:29:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3oSgN.png (http://i.imgur.com/3oSgN.png)

both bins . . . i dont mind providing things.

still though i was banned with no screenshot or videos. . .

dat windows classic layout

but srsly, what SabbathFreak/Adam said.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: biggaybaby on May 27, 2011, 07:43:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/3oSgN.png (http://i.imgur.com/3oSgN.png)

both bins . . . i dont mind providing things.

still though i was banned with no screenshot or videos. . .

Ewww itunes  ::)
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 27, 2011, 07:54:24 PM
ipod made me use it
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: biggaybaby on May 27, 2011, 07:56:35 PM
ipod made me use it

Sorry for dragging this further off topic but there are quite a lot of other media players (foobar2000, winamp, etc) that support iPods, you should give them a shot
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: bipolardiz on May 27, 2011, 08:13:42 PM
omg! i didnt hack, id get vac ban and would rather not risk that. he was making me mad previously so i just randomly shot him point blank with a shotgun! hacking is gay

I wasnt suggesting you hack I was just clarifying what the Sourcebans says really. You said it was gay to be perma'd for revenge rdm but that wasnt the reasoning. Simple clarification is all.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: biggaybaby on May 27, 2011, 10:34:41 PM
The first post says he was banned for "hacking", I believe he recognizes that DiZ
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: bipolardiz on May 28, 2011, 12:27:43 AM
The first post says he was banned for "hacking", I believe he recognizes that DiZ

Yea, it does say this but then in a follow up post of his he said being perm'd for revenge. I was saying that it wasn't permable for that really.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: biggaybaby on May 28, 2011, 11:06:12 AM
Yea, it does say this but then in a follow up post of his he said being perm'd for revenge. I was saying that it wasn't permable for that really.

I believe he was extending his claim that he wasn't hacking and trying to justify his appeal by stating that being banned permanently for a few revenge RDM's is harsh (since he allegedly wasn't hacking)
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 28, 2011, 02:32:51 PM
so uh can an admin look at this now, banned with no proof for something i was not doing
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: ursus on May 28, 2011, 05:45:58 PM
Let's see your addons folder too.
Yes, I'm serious.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 28, 2011, 08:23:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MaF8i.png (http://i.imgur.com/MaF8i.png)

a gordon freeman model and a penis model to attach to gordan freeman so he can fuk alyx
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: ursus on May 28, 2011, 08:57:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MaF8i.png (http://i.imgur.com/MaF8i.png)

a gordon freeman model and a penis model to attach to gordan freeman so he can fuk alyx

alright, just making sure
you don't have to modify the bin folder to have hacks
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Teeny on May 28, 2011, 10:48:42 PM
So the thing is that you were accused of hacking from your performance in ttt. VAC doesn't always catch hacking right away so saying you don't want to get caught is not a legit argument. We don't accept hacking on these servers, therefore it was permanent ban.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Jman on May 28, 2011, 11:20:57 PM
So the thing is that you were accused of hacking from your performance in ttt. VAC doesn't always catch hacking right away so saying you don't want to get caught is not a legit argument. We don't accept hacking on these servers, therefore it was permanent ban.

I understand he was accused of hacking. I understand we don't accept hacking. What I am lacking understanding of is why you continue to say he hacks when there was literally no proof of him hacking, and he provided screenshots of his bin and addon folders.

The only other possible reason you may still have to suspect him is because he didn't show the bin folders' "Last Modified" status, which would show if he recently moved the hacks out of the folder or deleted them. I'm sure he would provide those if he had to, as he stated he doesn't mind providing things.

If he provides a screenshot of his bin folders' "Last Modified" status, I believe it would warrent an unban. That's just my opinion.

Also, if someone has evidence of him hacking, present it now.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: biggaybaby on May 28, 2011, 11:25:17 PM
So the thing is that you were accused of hacking from your performance in ttt. VAC doesn't always catch hacking right away so saying you don't want to get caught is not a legit argument. We don't accept hacking on these servers, therefore it was permanent ban.

So based solely upon a few kills, you can be sure that he was hacking?

As I remember it (as I was there during the time this occurred) he RDM'd Tezuni (which I also witnessed from the middle of the apartments, the map was the richland remake) and you (I believe) were still alive when you banned him after he had been identified and confirmed as innocent, not trying to be a stickler here but shouldn't you have taken the time to see if there was any reason to him killing Tezuni before you permanently banned him?

Edit in response to Justin:

That is what I would like to know too,  is there even any evidence other than pure speculation that he was hacking?
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: jimonions on May 29, 2011, 12:18:08 AM
show the date it was modified, anyone can take out stuff from their folder then screen cap it.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Moo on May 29, 2011, 02:08:44 AM
also just gonna throw this out there

it is pretty easy to edit an image with different dates
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Jman on May 29, 2011, 07:51:13 AM
also just gonna throw this out there

it is pretty easy to edit an image with different dates

Oh come on. While this may be possible, it's illogical to go this far as to accuse him of trying to hide it, as there was never any proof at all of him hacking.

FROM WHAT I KNOW, Teeny was called in there to ban a hacker and she just banned him without watching him.

Again, that's just what I heard when I asked in TTT, so don't kill me.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: ursus on May 29, 2011, 07:57:23 AM
Oh come on. While this may be possible, it's illogical to go this far as to accuse him of trying to hide it, as there was never any proof at all of him hacking.

FROM WHAT I KNOW, Teeny was called in there to ban a hacker and she just banned him without watching him.

Again, that's just what I heard when I asked in TTT, so don't kill me.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/photoshops.png)

But really, it IS kind of unrealistic to say that someone shooped a screenshot of their bin folder. It's possible, but we also have the fact that Teeny didn't have any actual evidence whatsoever before permabanning him. Look at this, too:

So the thing is that you were accused of hacking from your performance in ttt. VAC doesn't always catch hacking right away so saying you don't want to get caught is not a legit argument. We don't accept hacking on these servers, therefore it was permanent ban.

What I see is:

So the thing is that you were accused of hacking from your performance in ttt, therefore it was permanent ban.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Moo on May 29, 2011, 08:24:24 AM
this is not what i "SEE"... but whats happening

and that is someone was banned for being accused of hacking, heres how it goes down....
if you watch a player and your become very suspicious of them... you have two options
ban the player until you can resolve the situation
or leave the player to play, with or without hacks

yeah yeah everyone heres so fking smart and knows everything, they know FOR SURE SOMEONES NOT A HACKER... or THEY KNOW FOR SURE SOMEONE IS
keeping it simple, you ban first, ask questions later because bans are easy to remove

as for people like jman who believe people dont go to great lengths to be innocent....
i dont even know what to say, its not worth arguing because this shits so stupid to think that people dont go to certain lengths... fucking just think of a few... ITS VERY EASY
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: ursus on May 29, 2011, 08:27:10 AM
as for people like jman who believe people dont go to great lengths to be innocent....
i dont even know what to say, its not worth arguing because this shits so stupid to think that people dont go to certain lengths... fucking just think of a few... ITS VERY EASY

i can actually agree with this

I asked a friend of mine awhile ago, and he actually has two garrysmod folders. Whenever someone asks for proof, he takes a SS of the empty one and blanks out the username to look legit. ._.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Moo on May 29, 2011, 08:41:07 AM
im gonna also add... I AM EXTREMELY BIAS to this appeal...
and Im going to ask everyone to NOT ATTACK the admin but to correctly approach the situation in a calm manner
attacking the admin, in particular TEENY... will, lets just say not END WELL AT ALL...

as to the OP

as gamefreak said, that is just one out of how many people out there who can possibly attempt to forge things like that, its also very simple to do

I am in way trying to accuse this person of doing that BUT all possibilities should be thrown out there
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 29, 2011, 10:27:50 AM
http://i.imgur.com/3sI87.png (http://i.imgur.com/3sI87.png)

alright here is the dates modified. garrysmod updates effects the bin folders. i dont touch addons really, but thats when i messed with pingas
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: ursus on May 29, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
http://i.imgur.com/3sI87.png (http://i.imgur.com/3sI87.png)

alright here is the dates modified. garrysmod updates effects the bin folders. i dont touch addons really, but thats when i messed with pingas

it seems kind of suspicious, but there's still the fact that there never was any evidence of hacks whatsoever

at most, it was revenge RDM which would warrant MAYBE a day ban
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 29, 2011, 11:58:34 AM
just joining a server modifies these kinds of folders, downloading models and sounds, maps.

ive done everything you guys have asked how is this suspicious 
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 29, 2011, 08:42:36 PM
i provide everything you guys want

banned with zero proof

i dont understand this
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: ursus on May 29, 2011, 10:17:26 PM
i provide everything you guys want

banned with zero proof

i dont understand this

(http://www.randomgs.com/rnd_logo.png)
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 30, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
(http://www.randomgs.com/rnd_logo.png)

SO RANDOM LOL
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Dale Feles on May 31, 2011, 04:03:19 AM
SO RANDOM LOL

It's not Random.

He's implying we ban everyone without reasons.

 :omgwtfband:

Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomm on May 31, 2011, 07:07:37 PM
so can an actual admin give his opinion on this? I was banned with zero proof and have done what the community wanted.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: bipolardiz on May 31, 2011, 07:24:12 PM
so can an actual admin give his opinion on this? I was banned with zero proof and have done what the community wanted.

Several admins did give their opinions. I guess you want coolz opinion which is owners.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: [Valor]iPounce on June 01, 2011, 07:56:37 AM
http://www.darklandservers.com/banlist.php?p=9 (http://www.darklandservers.com/banlist.php?p=9)
http://bans.tns-gaming.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:2255757&Submit (http://bans.tns-gaming.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:2255757&Submit)
http://onlinecomphelp.com/bans/bans.php/ (http://onlinecomphelp.com/bans/bans.php/)
http://www.alters2.com/bans/index.php?p=banlist&page=3 (http://www.alters2.com/bans/index.php?p=banlist&page=3)
Hello Stimpy. You cannot be unbanned since you use "aimbot" and "rdm" on other server.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: blαh2355 on June 01, 2011, 09:52:27 AM
http://www.darklandservers.com/banlist.php?p=9 (http://www.darklandservers.com/banlist.php?p=9)
http://bans.tns-gaming.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:2255757&Submit (http://bans.tns-gaming.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:2255757&Submit)
http://onlinecomphelp.com/bans/bans.php/ (http://onlinecomphelp.com/bans/bans.php/)
http://www.alters2.com/bans/index.php?p=banlist&page=3 (http://www.alters2.com/bans/index.php?p=banlist&page=3)
Hello Stimpy. You cannot be unbanned since you use "aimbot" and "rdm" on other server.
Nice find, don't forget ghosting, trolling, and being a goon.
To OP: wah wah wah wah, bad mistake coming on our servers >:( now :gtfo:
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Jman on June 01, 2011, 12:20:24 PM
as for people like jman who believe people dont go to great lengths to be innocent....
i dont even know what to say, its not worth arguing because this shits so stupid to think that people dont go to certain lengths... fucking just think of a few... ITS VERY EASY

>implying I don't think people go to great lengths to be innocent

I never said that. Even look as iPounce stated, it looks like you were right.

The only thing I said, Moo, was that FROM WHAT I HEARD in TTT, she just joined and banned him. In a sense I am just the messenger, yet you single me out and try to imply things about "people like jman", because that's not arrogant.

Sorry Moo, but singling me out because you assume what I am thinking, instead of the truth that I am just relaying a message isn't cool in my opinion.

Inb4someonereadsthisandoverreacts. I am just saying I don't think it's cool to be singled out for that, nothing else.

And before you say I am arguing, like you said not to, I already said iPounce found good evidence, and looks like it proves him wrong. So nope.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: blαh2355 on June 01, 2011, 02:03:14 PM
she
>she
wut
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Foofoojack on June 01, 2011, 05:00:48 PM
>she
wut

Teeny
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Sabb on June 01, 2011, 05:11:34 PM
>she
wut
>Teeny
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Jman on June 01, 2011, 05:15:08 PM
>Teeny

Teeny

Nice pootis.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Foofoojack on June 01, 2011, 05:16:22 PM
Nice pootis.

Was first, I win.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: blαh2355 on June 01, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
Oh, I thought he was referring to Moo.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: yoshi on June 05, 2011, 02:48:35 PM
I was getting rather agitated by Tezuni randomly accusing/rdming people

incase you guys didn't know. Tezuni is a troll.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Sabb on June 05, 2011, 02:58:16 PM
Was first, I win.
Oh wow I didn't even notice that when I posted it lol.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Benem3000 on June 18, 2011, 12:48:32 PM
I would say... I believe him about not hacking.  I have played with him a while back and he seemed alright. Tezuni can be stupid, probably why he is now Jbanned, but no matter how stupid someone is that doesn't give you the right to kill them unless they are rdmers and you think they may be tatin.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: » Magic « on July 01, 2011, 03:31:13 PM
TBH, I don't see how screenshotting your bin folder is going to prove anything, they can jsut move the hacks out then put them back in :/.

If he provides a screenshot of the bin folder itself with last modified dates in them, it will day if something has changed.

Moved or not.

Talk to Teeny, either pm her or ask Moo politely to ask her to talk to you.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Goat on July 17, 2011, 07:53:33 AM
http://hellsgamers.com/threads/47319-Report-quot-rome-quot-STEAM_0-0-2255757?s=a74ff2e28e1baaa70e3c42f890a3df60 (http://hellsgamers.com/threads/47319-Report-quot-rome-quot-STEAM_0-0-2255757?s=a74ff2e28e1baaa70e3c42f890a3df60)

He be using wallhax on the other servers, the thought of giving this guy a unban will hunt me for life.

Sorry for the bump btw

:thumbsdown:
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Mr.Krabs on July 23, 2011, 11:05:27 PM
http://hellsgamers.com/threads/47319-Report-quot-rome-quot-STEAM_0-0-2255757?s=a74ff2e28e1baaa70e3c42f890a3df60 (http://hellsgamers.com/threads/47319-Report-quot-rome-quot-STEAM_0-0-2255757?s=a74ff2e28e1baaa70e3c42f890a3df60)

He be using wallhax on the other servers, the thought of giving this guy a unban will hunt me for life.

Sorry for the bump btw

:thumbsdown:

I think he should be unbanned on this one time for the reason that this has happened once to me. And hacking on other servers isnt a reason to ban him from  this server what if i like hacking but i would never dare do it on Random.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: [Valor]iPounce on July 24, 2011, 12:34:23 AM
I think he should be unbanned on this one time for the reason that this has happened once to me. And hacking on other servers isnt a reason to ban him from  this server what if i like hacking but i would never dare do it on Random.
Are you fucking stupid? READ THE WHOLE STORY, HE USED HACKS ON RND AND OTHER SERVERS, FUCKING SHITTY HEAD.
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Goat on July 24, 2011, 07:44:23 AM
Are you fucking stupid? READ THE WHOLE STORY, HE USED HACKS ON RND AND OTHER SERVERS, FUCKING SHITTY HEAD.

<3, sums up the whole appeal
Title: Re: Tomm's Unban Appeal
Post by: Tomcat on August 03, 2011, 07:31:30 AM
I was checking his steam profile

This might be aple proof and I did watch that demo



He was hacking and his ban will remain

soz