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Restricted (Read Only) => Senior Members => Topic started by: Deathie on April 16, 2011, 12:24:15 PM

Title: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deathie on April 16, 2011, 12:24:15 PM
I'm just throwing this out there, but people tend to associate VIP with donors (like me :s ), and VIP's are essentially moderators, right?

What's the harm can it do, aside from making it clear from the get-go to guests who these people with pink tags are?

Just a light suggestion, if anyone has a valid reason why they shouldn't, feel free to post.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Don on April 16, 2011, 12:27:33 PM
... No.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deathie on April 16, 2011, 12:30:18 PM
... No.

Totally valid reason.


I still don't see why people would be opposed to it, aside from the fact it's change. VIP's ARE moderators, and to most people, VIP seems like they're a donor or sorts. (MOD) Would be much more clearer to people who are playing on the server for the first time.


But I appreciate your well thought out response.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Sabb on April 16, 2011, 12:33:04 PM
I wouldn't mind this.
Doesn't really matter to me though.
You do mean just making the VIP tag to moderator right?
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Moo on April 16, 2011, 12:35:32 PM
actaully VIPs are not moderators, MODERATORS are moderators

VIPS are a separate group that was created to uphold respected abilities

thats like saying with the previous system with respected... why not just rename them all to moderators.... cuz essentially thats what they are right?
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deathie on April 16, 2011, 12:35:50 PM
I wouldn't mind this.
Doesn't really matter to me though.
You do mean just making the VIP tag to moderator right?

Yeah. It seems like it would help clear up the little confusion there is, as to what a VIP does.

I'm not asking to give VIP's more power, just a name-change (hence the title).
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Sabb on April 16, 2011, 12:40:10 PM
actaully VIPs are not moderators, MODERATORS are moderators

VIPS are a separate group that was created to uphold respected abilities

thats like saying with the previous system with respected... why not just rename them all to moderators.... cuz essentially thats what they are right?
I don't understand, there isn't a group with the name moderators in the servers.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deathie on April 16, 2011, 12:42:11 PM
I don't understand, there isn't a group with the name moderators in the servers.

I think he's trying to imply that VIP's don't have the powers Assmod's default Moderator group has.

And like I said, this was just an idea I was throwing out there, hence why it's in Senior Section and not Suggestions.


There is nothing wrong I can see with this change, and it would help newcomers identify who VIP's are.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Sabb on April 16, 2011, 12:44:06 PM
Heh, doesn't really matter to me one way or another.
Some people do get confused thinking that they can donate to get VIP and such and will ask how, but it isn't a big deal, just have to keep telling them there are no donations and that everything is earned.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Moo on April 16, 2011, 12:44:44 PM
the change is a fine idea, but the change to moderator is completely different

trying to define something that doesnt fit it basically

moderators not vips

moderators are admins
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Cable on April 16, 2011, 12:45:23 PM
Well since there isn't a Mod rank ingame, Why not do it?
Besides, I think it would look better with MOD and not VIP.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Sabb on April 16, 2011, 12:46:38 PM
the change is a fine idea, but the change to moderator is completely different

trying to define something that doesnt fit it basically

moderators not vips

moderators are admins
I don't think changing the tag to moderator was the main point of the thread, just that having it as VIP was confusing newcomers.
I'm pretty sure he just meant moderator as an example, I'm sure we could think up something else to change it to.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Moo on April 16, 2011, 12:47:25 PM
VIP's are essentially moderators, right?
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Sabb on April 16, 2011, 12:48:30 PM

Okay, I still think it would be an alright idea to change the VIP tag to something else.
Doesn't need to be moderator.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Frank on April 16, 2011, 12:56:35 PM
Nope, because a true mod wouldn't need the lower ranks to vote to moderate.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deathie on April 16, 2011, 01:00:33 PM
the change is a fine idea, but the change to moderator is completely different

Okay then, what do you suggest it's changed to?

Moderator seems like a good fit.

Moderate - /Verb/ to reduce the excessiveness of; make less violent, severe, intense, or rigorous.
Isn't this what VIP's do?

Nope, because a true mod wouldn't need the lower ranks to vote to moderate.

Everyone seems to confuse this for the group (Moderator). The only point there would be to change the name, is to better discern the different between a VIP and a Regular. The first thing that would come to anyones mind is a Donor.

It's not a big issue, it's just something that can be done to help newcomers.








And as said before, this was only a light suggestion, and there seems to be a lot of mixed opinions.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Moo on April 16, 2011, 01:03:36 PM
i actually dont believe thats what vips do, vips are selected individuals who enjoy playing the servers who if the chance come across an issue.. deal with it

they dont go around sourcebans banning and determining their time

they dont join servers if theres an issue and distribute a ban

its a vote system which changes it from being a moderator to whatever u wanna call it
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Cable on April 16, 2011, 01:31:38 PM
they dont join servers if theres an issue and distribute a ban
Actually...
Yes they do.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Foofoojack on April 16, 2011, 03:01:49 PM
People are gonna think VIP's are Admins, Moderators nowadays are mostly known as admins.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Supertoaster on April 16, 2011, 03:03:10 PM
It would probably spark some confusion as moderators is just a fancy name for admin really.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Seb on April 16, 2011, 03:04:24 PM
moderators would have to moderate, so, in essence, admins are mods and super admins are just admins


right?
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deacon on April 16, 2011, 03:27:14 PM
you should be called Regulators
because

thats what you do


I can see it now
(Reg)-insertnamehere-
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Frank on April 16, 2011, 03:28:40 PM
No Snivy, I meant moderator as any moderator. You don't see Magic asking us to vote to ban x person for y time, do you?
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Carp on April 16, 2011, 04:00:48 PM
No Snivy, I meant moderator as any moderator. You don't see Magic asking us to vote to ban x person for y time, do you?

derp
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Moo on April 16, 2011, 08:01:57 PM
Actually...
Yes they do.

so your telling me its possible for you to distribute a ban without anyone elses consent

and that the first choice for people to go to with a server or ingame issue is a VIP
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Cable on April 16, 2011, 08:02:55 PM
so your telling me its possible for you to distribute a ban without anyone elses consent

and that the first choice for people to go to with a server or ingame issue is a VIP
I meant,
Someone might message me saying there is a problem in a server.
I join the server, See the problem,
Ban.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deathie on April 16, 2011, 08:52:08 PM
Well, Moo said it himself he thinks that a name change could be good, just not necessary "Moderator". Any ideas as to what would better convey the Job of a VIP aside from "VIP"?
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deacon on April 16, 2011, 09:12:16 PM
you should be called Regulators
because

thats what you do


I can see it now
(Reg)-insertnamehere-
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: PhysicX M.D. on April 17, 2011, 03:03:24 AM
Nah moderators..
VIP=can kick,ban(vote)
Mod=Can kick,ban,changemap,slay,mute(Vote)thats what i hope moderator for.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Frank on April 17, 2011, 06:49:51 AM
What about VIP? Because there isn't any other name that works. VIP doens't exactly mean power. And all others that imply power don't imply the necessity of votes to do their job.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Shawn on April 17, 2011, 07:10:06 AM
Whats wrong with VIP? No matter what you change it to people are still going to ask if the can donate to get it.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Peetah on April 17, 2011, 07:48:57 AM
Very important person makes me feel like a very important person :D
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: [Valor]iPounce on April 17, 2011, 08:05:38 AM
Very important person makes me feel like a very important person :D
Nop
VIP means Very Important Player
:trollface:
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Sabb on April 17, 2011, 08:34:50 AM
Whats wrong with VIP? No matter what you change it to people are still going to ask if the can donate to get it.
No, because VIP in most servers means donor.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Frank on April 17, 2011, 08:43:46 AM
Play/Person is the same, for all players are persons.
Nop
VIP means Very Important Player
:trollface:
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: Deathie on April 17, 2011, 09:54:59 AM
No, because VIP in most servers means donor.

Yeah. It's just a small annoyance whenever people ask how much they need to donate for VIP ._.

But again, it's not the biggest deal. I just wanted to throw the idea out there.

Also, you guys seem to have the misconstrewn idea of what a moderator is. You keep thinking I'm talking about the default group for moderators, which isn't the case. A moderator is simply someone who keeps people in check whenever nobodies around, and why there's a hierarchy.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: » Magic « on April 17, 2011, 10:05:28 AM
nope
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: cogsandspigots on April 17, 2011, 10:52:56 AM
If it ain't fix don't broke it.

No... wait.
Title: Re: Renaming VIP to Moderator?
Post by: coolzeldad on April 17, 2011, 11:10:30 AM
This happens with most every rank depending on the person.

VIP's are VIP's, I chose the rank because it represents the player.

People want to use money to enhance their profiles which will not happen here.

Point them to the forums if you're feeling helpful or ignore them.