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Bans (Read Only) => Report => Unapproved => Topic started by: joshfroh on February 14, 2011, 02:45:31 PM

Title: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 14, 2011, 02:45:31 PM
1. Player's SteamID STEAM_0:1:24973576

2. Players Nickname PRSN

3. Your in-game name sirsmksalot

4. Server name (Wirebuild, Zombie Survival) wirebuild

5. Description of the event(s)  we were all building AT spawn.. everyone was doing something and prsn just finished his traintrack.. but obviously he was bored. he came to spawn and put an unbreakable box over everyone who was in the area.. i didn't ask to remove or make a big deal.. but when he kept doing it. i pulled out the mingecage for a moment and he started to wine.. and then he continued to threaten me ,by reporting me for doing the same thing he did to us.. but i didn't trap 5 people.. and i instantly removed to stop his wining

6. Reason for ban

i dont think he can control him self using advanced dupe...
he is a good guy mabye just a stern talkin to ... hes normaly fine but i hate whiny children.

7. Screenshots or demo(s) | Optional console log(s)
didn't get a chance to snap any.. but its obvious,, chuck norris, dj junior, myself, and two other guests were all trapped in his box
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Prsn \\ on February 14, 2011, 02:52:02 PM
Proof? Your mad cuz i counted to 5 and then said im going to report you and now i have done, you left the server in fear, and i did not minge trap people with my box, you were killing chuck and other were killing chuck multiple times, i made the box to protect my friend. you got stuck in it and dont have the mental capacity to understand on hoe to get out (its kill in console btw) stead you just spammed c4 inside the box and kept killing people so i removed it seeing as it did not save chuck from a minge like you. i have proof of what you did to me.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: jimonions on February 14, 2011, 02:56:11 PM
proof
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Junior on February 14, 2011, 03:00:15 PM
Well true he mad a box at spawn but only to protect Chuck Norris or whatever,but no one were trapped they could just suicide,then i suicided like 2 or 3 times to get in but it werent a trap o.o

Anyways prsn is my friend (as well sir 2) and all but dude dont report someone for caging u 1 time do like me,give them 3 chances (as well i only see bad things [to report] at fretta) and then report if they dont stop
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Prsn \\ on February 14, 2011, 03:01:21 PM
this is not the first time this has happend to me by him, i give people way to many chances and they just abuse it. im tired of it and im not letting it happen anymore
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Divinecobra on February 14, 2011, 03:05:01 PM
 I and those other people were not all trapped in his box, he made it near spawn to protect me from people playing with gdc and pewpew because they were killing me and i couldnt build! As soon as he realized that he spawned it at the point where you spawn, he removed it right away. He was not minging.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 14, 2011, 03:15:39 PM
Proof? Your mad cuz i counted to 5 and then said im going to report you and now i have done, you left the server in fear, and i did not minge trap people with my box, you were killing chuck and other were killing chuck multiple times, i made the box to protect my friend. you got stuck in it and dont have the mental capacity to understand on hoe to get out (its kill in console btw) stead you just spammed c4 inside the box and kept killing people so i removed it seeing as it did not save chuck from a minge like you. i have proof of what you did to me.

I DID NOT MINGE CHUCK NORRIS HE JUST SAID IN FORUMS  so nice lie..   

u didn't make the box to protect any1... u were being a minge.   i didn't spam.. as u can only spawn 3 pew pew... and used the c4 on your TRAP to try getting out.. i know how to suicide.. which you could have done to get out of the mingecage..
AND AGAIN I DIDN'T KILL chuck norris   nore were u spawning the box to "protect" any1
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 14, 2011, 03:16:56 PM
this is not the first time this has happend to me by him, i give people way to many chances and they just abuse it. im tired of it and im not letting it happen anymore

when have u ever had a problem with me?? or w/e your accusing me of?
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Prsn \\ on February 14, 2011, 03:24:00 PM
where did chuck say you dint minge him? and how does that excuse from what you did to me, i made the box to protect chuck (Devine Cobra thats his fourm name)
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Don on February 14, 2011, 03:25:20 PM
Soooo ...
I have joined wirebuild right after this and done some "investigating".

Luckily, all people affected by this (including all witnesses, Prsn and SirMksAlot) were still there when I joined, so that's no issue.
I have asked all witnesses listed in this thread for their comments - and the outcome is that SirMks was causing a lot of trouble towards Chuck Norris, which resulted in Prsn spawning a simple cube (from which it is possible to suicide and noclip out from) around the area where Sir was. This made Sir spam C4 everywhere and still disrupting other players. Sir's "statement" to that is that he wanted to get out. Whatever.
After removing the cube, the same cube got spawned over a bridge, but with no intention of specifically trapping SirMk in it.
Sir, on the other hand, took this as a declaration of war and used the "Minge Catcher Pro" adv dupe to repeatedly trap prsn, even if he suicides. A brief explanation of that dupe would be that it traps the nearest person to it after a press on numpad 1. Since you can spam 1, it's impossible to get out and due to the effects caused by the dupe it's also lagging the server a lot. When we were testing this dupe, SirMks mysteriously left the server as well.

Anyway, this in its whole is an incredibly stupid argument, but from what I've heard and seen, I'd like to put my statement this way:
SirMksAlot overreacted significantly and stupidly over all this, ignoring the fact he could've just suicided or noclip to escape his unintentional prison. Instead of dealing with matters peacefully though, he decided to start a giant-ass war on prsn's. At the end, there was no winner, Prsn stopped after the previously mentioned spawned cube (which was done to protect Chuck again from Sir), yet Sir continued. Even at the end, this could've been just forgotten and dealt with by saying sorry and loving each other again.
Instead you made this thread.
Prsn didn't react as good as he could, but he has definitely done the lesser evil in this, simply trying to protect his friend, which Sir took as massive insult to his privacy or whatever - considering SirMks was already randomly killing people, I don't think Prsn should have any form of punishment in this matter.

If you ask me, a temporary demotion is definitely fine here regarding SirMksAlot - but that's just the opinion of an unimportant person and it's not up to me to make this judgement.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 14, 2011, 03:26:23 PM
DON  did you not talk to chuck norris... i wasn't caussing any trouble at all.. towards anyone?? 
chuck norris said som1 killed him.,, but he wasn't getting minged by me .. that "something gay" guy was prop spamming bombs..
so the whole chuck norris and me being a minge thing is BS

and he can suicide out of that mingecage.. same as i was,, BUT I WAS ON SPAWN?
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Divinecobra on February 14, 2011, 03:28:45 PM
I DID NOT MINGE CHUCK NORRIS HE JUST SAID IN FORUMS  so nice lie..   

u didn't make the box to protect any1... u were being a minge.   i didn't spam.. as u can only spawn 3 pew pew... and used the c4 on your TRAP to try getting out.. i know how to suicide.. which you could have done to get out of the mingecage..
AND AGAIN I DIDN'T KILL chuck norris   nore were u spawning the box to "protect" any1

  Ahem, i never said you didn't kill me, i think you did once or twice but it was also other people, so prsn was being nice and made me a box so i wouldnt get killed by gdc, fairy, pewpew, etc
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Prsn \\ on February 14, 2011, 03:30:00 PM
Thanks don for your opinion
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 14, 2011, 03:32:04 PM
i killed u with my truck wheel.. ONCe on an accident and i told you "mybad" .. that's it...
he didn't tell any1 what the "box" was for he just put it on top of four of us?   

he could of suicided out of the "mingecage" the same way your all telling me i should of out of his "box"
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Prsn \\ on February 14, 2011, 03:40:53 PM
if you clearly read my post maybe twice it says it was to protect chuck from minges and people killing him. it was not my intentions to trap you and you have just now overracted and im tired of the minge caging.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 14, 2011, 03:43:37 PM
tired of as in?? other people because me and you have never had a problem..  u were cool before u got regular now ur just a wine ass.   

i never did shit to u .. but u strait trapped me as much as i trapped u .. then u threated to report me ?? lmao? like forreal now?

Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Rocket50 on February 14, 2011, 03:49:38 PM
I think either sirsmksalot should get a temporary demote or no one gets a demotion at all.

1. Even though don's information is nice, its not extremely reliable; Some people could like Prsn more and side with him. (No Offence)

2. sirsmksalot griefed first, then Prsn intervened and it became a minge war.

All I've seen the hoverdrive been used for is trapping other players. It lags whenever it teleports rapidly and annoys pretty much everyone on the server except for the player using it. It should be removed or be only allowed for admins.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Shawn on February 14, 2011, 03:52:10 PM
Arg, To me you both overreacted the most simplest thing that could've happen was That Chuck go in a corner and put a huge box around himself... if everyone was killing him...

But no you two decide to take this into your own hands and cage one another...


2 wrongs DON'T make a right...
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 14, 2011, 03:58:47 PM
so then drop it ... but still he was trapping people on top of spawn? im completely at fault?
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Rocket50 on February 14, 2011, 04:00:03 PM
so then drop it ... but still he was trapping people on top of spawn? im completely at fault?

If you're going to say 'drop it' dont just seperate that with a few periods then keep rambling on about how its not your fault.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Prsn \\ on February 14, 2011, 04:40:59 PM
my intentions were not to trap him, he just lacks the mental capacity to escape, even ask don and others who where there when i showed them what i did wrong and what he did wrong. and this is not his first minging offense

http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,3561.0.html (http://forum.randomgs.com/index.php/topic,3561.0.html)
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Gilgamesh on February 14, 2011, 06:06:02 PM
in the most neutral stance I can offer on my account of knowing the respectable parties in this situation. no proof. witness testimony is here say therefore non- reliable so this topic should be dropped. no offense to PRSN or SIRMKS. (edit) still no right to cage PRSN though.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Prsn \\ on February 14, 2011, 07:42:48 PM
everyone on the server that was a regular, as in played there often posted here today, i showed don what happend and to my point of view after he got on and sir had his chance but he left instead. ban wouldnt be nessacery but maybe a demote. what he did wasnt like life threatening but its annoying and needs to be stopped. zero you dont like me and im not sure how you feel about sirs but you were not there and i do not think this should be dropped. some action needs to be taken or this will go unresolved and will only happen again and maybe to even you
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Foofoojack on February 14, 2011, 07:50:09 PM
I love how 85% of everybody's posts in here are -1'd.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Gilgamesh on February 14, 2011, 07:58:32 PM
I said I take a neutral stance on this PRSN!
regardless  like i said he had no right to cage you. I hope it was a misunderstanding. I have known Sirsmks for a while b4 you but I'm not being biased cause as you said "I was not there" . If you want him banned post a demo of him doing something negative and report him then. other than that testimonials are by definition "here say" and thus not credible. now as I said before NO offense to the respected parties involved.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 15, 2011, 09:09:04 AM
everyone on the server that was a regular, as in played there often posted here today, i showed don what happend and to my point of view after he got on and sir had his chance but he left instead. ban wouldnt be nessacery but maybe a demote. what he did wasnt like life threatening but its annoying and needs to be stopped. zero you dont like me and im not sure how you feel about sirs but you were not there and i do not think this should be dropped. some action needs to be taken or this will go unresolved and will only happen again and maybe to even you

"i could happen again mabye to you"    lol ?   you started it with your cage..  dont sit here and act like im a minge...

whats the number 1 reason people use the mingecage???
to lock up a minge right?   
he was caging everyone unintentionally, he thought just chuck norris was in his cage.. even tho there were four people NOT including him...

ok i can see how mabye 4 people look like one... (not really)   
then why didn't he remove.. why did i have to sit there and try to get out with c4, suiciding,, nothing worked.. i didn't wine like a little bitch tho.. i just gave him a while to remove...

on the other hand.. i duped the mingecage. and sent it on him ONCe.. he didn't even let it soak in.. he starting wining instantly for me to remove or he was going to report... so i laughed at him..

he just caged everyone but the minges.. for over 30 seconds.. and i put him in a mingecage for less than 8 seconds.. and he almost started to cry over this..

i can understand him saying he was trying to get away from the minges.. because yes.. "hardgay and spike"   were minging with bombs and prop spamming and all kinds of shit..

but still he had no right to cage us.. and just leave us in there. i didn't ask any1 to put a box over me and the spawn area.   he got trapped for about a 4th of time he did to me.. and he disliked it enough to post a report... mabye now he'll realize its annoying, 



me and prox just tested the mingecage... it is not a trap you can simply suicide your self right out of it.. and spawn back at the spawn area.. unlike his box that was spawned on top of me,, and on top of the spawn area... when i suicided i could do nothing but respawn inside..
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: mickey0528 on February 16, 2011, 04:13:25 AM
now, my stand point is that. Sir you deserve a punishment of demotion.

first,seriously you are the major mingebag. prsn's case is just a minor one. why am i saying that? just because that even prsn put a box on you, u can simply noclip through, not to use the C4 and disturb other players. after prsn remove the box thingy, you use the minge-trap to trap prsn, which he WON'T be able to escape. i really think that you are abusing the pew pew (you keep killing others before prsn trap you) and your reg.

then,you keep lying. even Don had tell us the truth, you keep saying that you didn't minge or kill. i hate liars.

also, your insulting is the most unforgive-able. you just keep using bad words toward those u don't like.im sure ur going to start a flame war with me after you see my reply.
for example of your insulting:


bias?   u have no right being on the forums.. u've been begging for +1's on ur reg app .. all day..

u seen what he did.. this is chidlish as fuck i dont understand why people have to mess with one another

everyone have their right for being on the forum. how can u say someone doesn't? you are the one who don't deserve to stay on RND.

finally, you are just butthurt . if someone trap you, you can't just trap him back and report him. even he stoped, you don't remove the cage. does it even makes sense? why can't both of u just say "sorry" and end this stupid thing? i know you will say that prsn doesn't say sorry too. but you report him first, will someone say sorry when they are offenced? im sure u don't, either prsn.

however, i don't agree with your offence toward prsn since you are mingeba, not prsn .
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 16, 2011, 07:24:29 AM
now, my stand point is that. Sir you deserve a punishment of demotion.

first,seriously you are the major mingebag. prsn's case is just a minor one. why am i saying that? just because that even prsn put a box on you, u can simply noclip through, not to use the C4 and disturb other players. after prsn remove the box thingy, you use the minge-trap to trap prsn, which he WON'T be able to escape. i really think that you are abusing the pew pew (you keep killing others before prsn trap you) and your reg.

then,you keep lying. even Don had tell us the truth, you keep saying that you didn't minge or kill. i hate liars.

also, your insulting is the most unforgive-able. you just keep using bad words toward those u don't like.im sure ur going to start a flame war with me after you see my reply.
for example of your insulting:

everyone have their right for being on the forum. how can u say someone doesn't? you are the one who don't deserve to stay on RND.

finally, you are just butthurt . if someone trap you, you can't just trap him back and report him. even he stoped, you don't remove the cage. does it even makes sense? why can't both of u just say "sorry" and end this stupid thing? i know you will say that prsn doesn't say sorry too. but you report him first, will someone say sorry when they are offenced? im sure u don't, either prsn.

however, i don't agree with your offence toward prsn since you are mingeba, not prsn .


for 1 i went through this 40 times... i couldn't no clip through his props,, and second he could have gotten out of the minge cage by typing "kill" in consol....

and for 2.. he threated me with a report....

3rd i send him a pm apologizing, and admitting we were childish and asked to put it behind us, he didn't reply until today with childish PM back
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Prsn \\ on February 16, 2011, 02:02:40 PM
i did nothing wrong, your just not smart enough on knowing how to get out, a demotion for you would be wonderful, not a ban and not a perm demotion but you were the one who blew this way up so lets take a look at the very first post, your bann request aginst me has no proof, and hardley any other info, my ban request against you had everything i needed.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Shawn on February 16, 2011, 02:05:20 PM
i did nothing wrong


And this is why i say both of you need demotion or ban because both of you lack the intelligences to realize you both were in the wrong!
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Deathie on February 16, 2011, 02:15:42 PM
I like how he -1nd everyone who said something against him.
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: mickey0528 on February 16, 2011, 04:48:43 PM
i did nothing wrong, your just not smart enough on knowing how to get out, a demotion for you would be wonderful, not a ban and not a perm demotion but you were the one who blew this way up so lets take a look at the very first post, your bann request aginst me has no proof, and hardley any other info, my ban request against you had everything i needed.
u did something wrong but ur case is the minor so you deserve less punishment. don't say you did nothing wrong since you really traped him once but with a easy box only. that's it. if u deserve a punishment, you should have a temp. demotion for a few days. but sir need a 2 week demotion since he had repeated this for once. k?
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 16, 2011, 08:56:49 PM
remove this post ;/
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: joshfroh on February 16, 2011, 08:58:28 PM
i did nothing wrong, your just not smart enough on knowing how to get out, a demotion for you would be wonderful, not a ban and not a perm demotion but you were the one who blew this way up so lets take a look at the very first post, your bann request aginst me has no proof, and hardley any other info, my ban request against you had everything i needed.



your not smart enough to get out either,, its the exact same command ur telling me to use .,... how are you still unclear?

there is no need for proof we both had enough proof and the same stories for everyone to know what happend... its over why are you still arguing about it???

hes just butt hurt




and to this guy ^^^^


i had repeated this for once???

whats that even mean? and the only other REAL offence i had was a dispute against a guest. who was prop blocking..
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: YomoFox on February 16, 2011, 11:47:40 PM
Can i say

"...."

?
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Xrain on February 17, 2011, 12:19:36 AM
and i put him in a mingecage for less than 8 seconds..

This is the statement I have the largest issue with.

Why?

Lets see, there seems to be a small drama fest that goes on between Sirs, prsn and a few others who inhabit the wire-build server.

The thing is, I have talked about the minge-cage issue before. In a few reports that involve you sirs in fact.

I have told you, as well as everyone else on the server in no uncertain terms, you are never in any circumstance to Mingecage someone.

I have also explained in great detail the reason why you don't do this.


Instead, hit the console button (aka ~)

Type "record asdf" (or whatever else you want to call it)

now go to C:/Program files/Steam/Steamapps/Account@sadf.pingaz/garrysmod/garrysmod/asdf.dem and take the demo you recorded.

Then you come here, and you upload your demo. Problem solved, I or another admin looks at it, and the person gets banned. Simple.



However



If you ever spawn a mingecage in retalition to anything again.

I'm not going to demote you, nor am I going to ban you for a few days.


I'm going to permanently ban you.
From both the servers, and the forums.


I don't care if the person simultaneously insulted every member of your family in 14 different languages, while exploding your stuff 100,000 times a second.

You are not to retaliate towards them.

Instead record a demo.


But oh noes Xrain is going to perma ban me!!1!1!adasdadiowjao

No, it's simple to not get banned.

Just don't mingecage people, even if its for such a short period of time that its imperceptible to the human eye.

Even if the person could just suicide and get out.


Don't Do it.


Questions anyone?
Title: Re: prsn bann request
Post by: Gilgamesh on February 17, 2011, 08:02:10 AM
this is the second topic that needs locking and taking down. once it's gone the incident should never be brought up again. lest  we restart the cycle of hate stemming from said incident. but we should learn from this as well as Xrain's post. unless anyone wants a permaban sandwich?