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Title: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: HideoKojima on March 24, 2013, 01:32:39 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

To sum up. Millionaire trys to scam people for 1k, ends up making 22k.

Thoughts on this?

Thoughts on kickstarter/indiegogo in general?



(IF THIS WAS REAL.) The thing that bugs me the most is, what the fuck would she have done with 22k? Like seriously, buy a more expensive RPG maker or what?
I just don't understand...

Also it's clearly not written buy a 9 year old, because 9 year olds just don't type without making spelling errors/type using correct grammar and shit.

I hate kickstarters and indiegogos in general. Most the time they are all just people with money asking for money to make something. It's pretty annoying.


Also apparently Brian Fargo (or whatever his name is) lives in like a fucking mansion.

I've never funded a kickstarter/indiegogo and I don't see myself ever funding one either.


Unless someone is trying to make Primal Rage 2... then I might.
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: Cake Faice on March 24, 2013, 03:09:13 PM
Well, the way I look at it, if a kickstarter has a proper public avaliable demo, proof, screenshots, and articles of what ever they're doing, then a kickstarter isn't a bad idea. But for shit like that...who the fuck is stupid enough to think a 9 year old can make such an "amazing" RPG game and would require $20,000+ for that.

You can look up tutorials and shit on the internet like that for free.

God damn my jimmies are entirely rustled. These people need their shit slapped.
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: Tiger Guy on March 24, 2013, 03:34:34 PM
Oh look, white knights and feminazis giving money to a dumb cause again. This time they're giving money to the rich, how suiting.

This Kickstarter should be down soon/
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: HideoKojima on March 24, 2013, 04:09:17 PM
Well, the way I look at it, if a kickstarter has a proper public avaliable demo, proof, screenshots, and articles of what ever they're doing, then a kickstarter isn't a bad idea. But for shit like that...who the fuck is stupid enough to think a 9 year old can make such an "amazing" RPG game and would require $20,000+ for that.

You can look up tutorials and shit on the internet like that for free.

God damn my jimmies are entirely rustled. These people need their shit slapped.

"proper public avaliable demo, proof, screenshots," The thing about this, is that it means the game is almost done/already being made? So they are just trying to squeeze money out of people quite often.

Oh look, white knights and feminazis giving money to a dumb cause again. This time they're giving money to the rich, how suiting.

This Kickstarter should be down soon/

Actually I think it was confirmed Kickstarter will not being taking it down...

I mean after all Kickstarter earns 5(or 10%?) of what the kickstarter makes.
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: Cake Faice on March 24, 2013, 05:52:43 PM
"proper public avaliable demo, proof, screenshots," The thing about this, is that it means the game is almost done/already being made? So they are just trying to squeeze money out of people quite often.
Well no, it means that it's in its early stages of development, but enough to show the public what you're game is capable of, instead of just going off of "faith and hype".
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: HideoKojima on March 25, 2013, 05:29:09 PM
It seems the project is indeed going to stay up.

Well no, it means that it's in its early stages of development, but enough to show the public what you're game is capable of, instead of just going off of "faith and hype".

Actually one game literally was complete and just needed a couple small fixes, the money was going to "market" the game.
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: Tortie on March 25, 2013, 05:42:37 PM
Actually one game literally was complete and just needed a couple small fixes, the money was going to "market" the game.
Well that would be an example of a bad project that you shouldn't support. But there are good projects that pose a new, interesting idea, but dont have enough funding.
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: Xrain on March 25, 2013, 06:05:47 PM
You can be scammed in just about anything.

Kickstarter and the like have done some to reduce the avenues that you can be scammed in. But in the end you are basically making an investment into a company.
If that investment is good (Star Citizen), or bad (someone just trying to get money) is wholly up to you, just like it is on the regular market.

Personally I like the crowd funding idea, it gives people an easy avenue to get funding for their projects. But just like everything else in life, you have to beware, if it sounds too good to be true, it generally is, and your money will just go down a hole.

Writing the whole thing off just because of a few bad projects is kinda like my hometown banning jet-skis just because there was 1 fellow who drove around and acted like an ass.
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: Cake Faice on March 25, 2013, 11:16:12 PM
It seems the project is indeed going to stay up.

Actually one game literally was complete and just needed a couple small fixes, the money was going to "market" the game.
Ugh, well yeah, there are the stupid scams like that. I'd especially like to point out the "universe project", all there is atm, is 1 or 2 screenshots and like 30 seconds of footage. So it's kinda stupid they want to immediately ask for funding rather than putting out an early portion of the game as a demo to show what the game can do (I know imma get shitstorm'd for this, but paying for an alpha like arma 3 is kinda stupid, especially when they only have the alpha "lite" that really doesn't show much of the game).

It's almost like game devs don't go through the effort anymore of wanting to impress their playerbases with demonstration of new features and new gaming revolutions, just to establish faith. All it is, "lol no money for us to start? lol no game4u".
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: HideoKojima on March 26, 2013, 11:57:59 AM
Ugh, well yeah, there are the stupid scams like that. I'd especially like to point out the "universe project", all there is atm, is 1 or 2 screenshots and like 30 seconds of footage. So it's kinda stupid they want to immediately ask for funding rather than putting out an early portion of the game as a demo to show what the game can do (I know imma get shitstorm'd for this, but paying for an alpha like arma 3 is kinda stupid, especially when they only have the alpha "lite" that really doesn't show much of the game).

It's almost like game devs don't go through the effort anymore of wanting to impress their playerbases with demonstration of few features and new gaming revolutions, just to establish faith. All it is, "lol no money for us to start? lol no game4u".

I completely agree with the Alpha thing. Buyable Alpha games are pretty much "Just trust us and hope this game doesn't suck."  I dislike Notch but hell, least he made a kinda demo for Minecraft.(Though no clue if the demo thing was there during the Alpha)

They really should put out a demo/some kind of time trail thing other than the Alpha Lites, instead of pretty much telling people to trust them.
Title: Re: The great kickstarter scam. (Also What's your opinion on crowd funding?)
Post by: Tiger Guy on March 26, 2013, 03:41:35 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/9-year-old-kickstarter-campaign_n_2949294.html?utm_hp_ref=technology&utm_hp_ref=technology (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/9-year-old-kickstarter-campaign_n_2949294.html?utm_hp_ref=technology&utm_hp_ref=technology)