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Title: Modify the barrett
Post by: Prox on February 03, 2013, 08:37:06 AM: I really think that you shouldn't be required to crouch when firing the barrett in TTT. It's low clip, big recoil and loud noise is enough to compensate for it's high damage, and that's not the only reason why I think it should be buffed, people, mainly new players to the server complain about it not working every day. I just don't see a reason why it should stay as it is right now.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Deacon on February 03, 2013, 08:40:02 AM: I'd be ok changing it as long as the other stats stay the same.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: TehHank on February 03, 2013, 08:49:22 AM: Like i said ages ago, my suggestion of crouching to shoot it was merely a joke or not to have been taken seriously.

I fully support this.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Deacon on February 03, 2013, 08:50:41 AM: Quote from: TehHank on February 03, 2013, 08:49:22 AM
Like i said ages ago, my suggestion of crouching to shoot it was merely a joke or not to have been taken seriously.

I fully support this.

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Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on February 03, 2013, 08:52:26 AM: I'm completely okay with this as almost no one ever uses this gun because of what prox said about them complaining for it not working or just too complicated for some people(lol)

But it's also made for sniping from long distances,not for running around and slaughtering everyone in the room.

But changing it wont hurt at all i guess.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Alkaline on February 03, 2013, 09:13:18 AM: I don't think any of the custom guns should be changed because (since most of the maps randomly spawn guns) a player should deal with/make use of the guns they find. Even if the guns are unbalanced.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Prox on February 03, 2013, 09:21:01 AM: Quote from: Alkaline on February 03, 2013, 09:13:18 AM
I don't think any of the custom guns should be changed because (since most of the maps randomly spawn guns) a player should deal with/make use of the guns they find. Even if the guns are unbalanced.
Most people don't expect that you are required to crouch in order to shoot, so most of the time they just don't use that gun, because it's "not working".
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Deacon on February 03, 2013, 09:29:17 AM: Quote from: Alkaline on February 03, 2013, 09:13:18 AM
I don't think any of the custom guns should be changed because (since most of the maps randomly spawn guns) a player should deal with/make use of the guns they find. Even if the guns are unbalanced.

I'd be inclined to agree usually, but in this instance prox is correct. I designed it to be hard to RDM with. It'll still be hard to use without the crouch requirement, and it really shouldn't change much.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: blαh2355 on February 03, 2013, 10:06:07 AM: Yes please. I don't use it since scout does the job pretty well itself but crouching is kinda obsolete.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: HideoKojima on February 03, 2013, 07:12:40 PM: How much stronger is the barret compared to the regular sniper? It doesn't seem much better imo.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Deacon on February 03, 2013, 07:13:31 PM: Quote from: HideoKojima on February 03, 2013, 07:12:40 PM
How much stronger is the barret compared to the regular sniper? It doesn't seem much better imo.

base damage is 75.

headshot multiplier is less, making it less effective with low karma. We didn't want it to be an RDM gun.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: ๖Ϝцzsioᴎ on February 03, 2013, 07:29:04 PM: Quote from: HideoKojima on February 03, 2013, 07:12:40 PM
How much stronger is the barret compared to the regular sniper? It doesn't seem much better imo.
Shot to the chest once get's them down from Healthy to wounded, so 50-ish.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Deacon on February 03, 2013, 07:55:20 PM: Quote from: Ϝuzsioᴎ on February 03, 2013, 07:29:04 PM
Shot to the chest once get's them down from Healthy to wounded, so 50-ish.

(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/7c46c97dfc142fa48f5dadfba89f5c6d580751b2510f612e6f807b794f485cce6g.jpg)
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: blαh2355 on February 03, 2013, 08:34:24 PM: Quote from: Deacon on February 03, 2013, 07:55:20 PM
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/7c46c97dfc142fa48f5dadfba89f5c6d580751b2510f612e6f807b794f485cce6g.jpg)
>18.999999 Recoil
As if rounding to 19 would be a problem?
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Samo on February 03, 2013, 09:13:38 PM: "OMG THE BARRETT IS BROKEN HOW DO I SHOOT?"
I don't really care too much about what you do with it, as long as I don't have to hear people complaining about how it doesn't shoot.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: This Cactus on February 04, 2013, 01:18:23 AM: Quote from: Samo on February 03, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
"OMG THE BARRETT IS BROKEN HOW DO I SHOOT?"
I don't really care too much about what you do with it, as long as I don't have to hear people complaining about how it doesn't shoot.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Every. single. time. everytime I say how to shoot it all I hear is *BEJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG*, But
you can do tricks while jump-crouching with it
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: memo3300 on February 04, 2013, 01:38:31 PM: Quote from: This Cactus on February 04, 2013, 01:18:23 AM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Every. single. time. everytime I say how to shoot it all I hear is *BEJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG*, But
you can do tricks while jump-crouching with it

yes.

you can shot if whenever you're pressing crouch.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Rbn on February 05, 2013, 07:36:12 AM: This is only a opinion.
I don't see any problem crouching to shot, this is a sniper rifle that should be used for long range shots, that means there should be no problem if you have a pistol for medium ~ short range.

I saw ppl trying to be a CoD player i guess trying to 360º no scope with it, lol.

As i said, IMO there's no problem with crouching with it is not intended to use medium ~ short range.

In addition: If you pay attention, most of the ppl that use to snipe, they do crouch when aiming and fire action.

Like i said before is just MY OPINION.

Edit: There are different bone segments on the player body, as the same, different damage in each part, 75 is the base damage on Torso, that's the real damage, if you miss shot on arms or legs it causes less damage than intended, makes sense no?, by other way, on head shot it runs by the Head shot multiplier, you have to take that in mind.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Prox on February 06, 2013, 01:13:24 AM: Added a poll because I felt like. It's not very good way to make a decision, but it more or less represents what members think about it.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: TehHank on February 06, 2013, 03:12:44 AM: Add the ability to fire standing but with either:
1. Much more recoil shooting while standing
2. 5Hp Self inflicted damage per shot while standing
3. User gets pushed back by recoil (similair to a newton launcher blast) while standing

Crouching is unaffected.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: blαh2355 on February 06, 2013, 02:22:17 PM: Quote from: TehHank on February 06, 2013, 03:12:44 AM
Add the ability to fire standing but with either:
1. Much more recoil shooting while standing
2. 5Hp Self inflicted damage per shot while standing
3. User gets pushed back by recoil (similair to a newton launcher blast) while standing

Crouching is unaffected.
I would accept 1 or 3
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Prox on February 07, 2013, 02:09:07 AM: Quote from: TehHank on February 06, 2013, 03:12:44 AM
Add the ability to fire standing but with either:
1. Much more recoil shooting while standing
2. 5Hp Self inflicted damage per shot while standing
3. User gets pushed back by recoil (similair to a newton launcher blast) while standing

Crouching is unaffected.
I would disagree with any of those changes, all I want is that you wouldn't be required to crouch when firing barrett.

The current poll results really surprised me seeing as most of people support me in this thread.
I also don't understand why people want it unchanged, since crouching only causes confusion in-game and makes people to not use that weapon at all, and what good does the crouching give? Makes the gun hard to use? Hard to RDM with? No matter whether or not you're going to need to crouch with it, it will never be as easy to RDM with like it is with m16 or mac10 or even scout, besides if we could just at least temporarily modify it to see how it would actually perform in game, then it would be much more easier for us to decide how it should be, changes can be always reverted after all.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Xrain on February 08, 2013, 03:44:28 AM: Quote from: TehHaneKawa on February 06, 2013, 03:12:44 AM
Add the ability to fire standing but with either:
1. Much more recoil shooting while standing
2. 5Hp Self inflicted damage per shot while standing
3. User gets pushed back by recoil (similair to a newton launcher blast) while standing

Crouching is unaffected.

Just as an FYI I have actually shot a gun very similar to a barrett. It didn't have any recoil what so ever. It was however ungodly heavy, so you would need to set it on the bi-pod to shoot it.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Deacon on February 08, 2013, 08:50:36 AM: Quote from: Xrain on February 08, 2013, 03:44:28 AM
Just as an FYI I have actually shot a gun very similar to a barrett. It didn't have any recoil what so ever. It was however ungodly heavy, so you would need to set it on the bi-pod to shoot it.

A fact I chose to ignore in the game because it's much more fun to go flying backward.

Stop being right.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: blαh2355 on February 08, 2013, 12:43:09 PM: Quote from: Deacon on February 08, 2013, 08:50:36 AM
A fact I chose to ignore in the game because it's much more fun to go flying backward.

Stop being right.
Remove the muzzle brake and it makes more sense lol.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: ๖Ϝцzsioᴎ on February 08, 2013, 10:49:24 PM: Quote from: TehHaneKawa on February 06, 2013, 03:12:44 AM
3. User gets pushed back by recoil (similair to a newton launcher blast) while standing

Crouching is unaffected.
Think about it, this will be used by the players advantage, say you're in a fight infront of the lighthouse in ttt_minecraft, you can just fly backwards and get away.

Also, flying backwards is fun.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: qt on February 26, 2013, 10:03:55 PM: Just make a note pop up whenever you pick it up saying that you have to crouch to shoot it.
Problem solved.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Viole on March 11, 2013, 06:18:32 PM: I like that push thing. It's like rocket jumping but with recoil and not explosions. I like explosions.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: gmod101 on April 09, 2013, 01:26:32 AM: I would like to kill some peoples with out having to crouch
I fully support this
As long the stats stay the same then i am okay with it :3
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Frank on April 09, 2013, 05:29:13 AM: ~~If Barrett's an insta-kill then I think it's just fine that you need to crouch.~~

I was reading from the phone and it only showed the last 3 messages, so I thought that was it. Anyway, I think crouching is alright.
Maybe... just maybe... make the damage higher. Just maybe. Since a shot with that kind of gun anywhere in your torso would probably... kill you.
Title: Re: Modify the barrett
Post by: Deacon on April 09, 2013, 07:52:08 AM: Learn you some.