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Title: Death
Post by: pyrosheep on December 20, 2012, 01:49:59 PM
Death is a pretty serious thing, just curious on how many people have experienced a loved one dying, how the dealt with it ect...

I was probably about 6 when my Grandad died of a heart attack and I was fucking mortified, I was crying everyday and I would just not stop. In addition to that, my Grandmother isn't dead but she's in a wing of a nursery home for patients with mental illnesses, she has alzheimers and it is just terrible visiting her. She doesn't know who I am and it sucks. She's like a zombie.

Anyway, the idea came to me when my cat Marco that I've had for 14 years had a blatter infection a few years ago and they fixed him up but if he got it again he would have to be put down. So yeah he got it again yesterday and he's dying in a veterinarian office. That sucks. But I'll be happy for him if he dies, it would be selfish for me to keep him if he is in so much pain.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Astropilot on December 20, 2012, 02:12:18 PM
So what you suggest is to let people die so they won't experience any more pain, right?
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Cake Faice on December 20, 2012, 02:16:55 PM
Eh, last year, around this time of year, my grandma passed away out of the blues from a heart attack.

I'm not that person to spill my emotions everywhere unless it's under a really soul breaking circumstance, but I was just pretty much sadden for a week straight. It felt like a damn black cloud was following over me, while the rest of my family broke down over it. I still can't believe she's gone after practically visiting her my whole entire life. But I didn't go and tear myself up from it, I had to force it into the back of my mind so I could focus on schoolwork, until I went to her funeral. After that, everyone moved on with her in mind.

So I can cope with death and not take it hard at all, even though it's god damn devastating at first. But really sorry to hear about your cat though.

So what you suggest is to let people die so they won't experience any more pain, right?
...yeah?
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Astropilot on December 20, 2012, 02:44:34 PM
Well then I do suppose it's right for them to die if the end result isn't a cure for the pain. What I find funny is that there are some moments where there are cures for pain, but the giant toll gate of MONEY has to come along the way or the next highway exit is death you don't want.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Cake Faice on December 20, 2012, 02:51:23 PM
Well then I do suppose it's right for them to die if the end result isn't a cure for the pain. What I find funny is that there are some moments where there are cures for pain, but the giant toll gate of MONEY has to come along the way or the next highway exit is death you don't want.
Well even then money won't take you down that exit, just you'll be shit-fuck tons in debt for a good portion of your life.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Sabb on December 20, 2012, 03:06:26 PM
I personally prepare for it. I haven't had an actual close family member die though. But I still prepare mentally in some way. Remind myself of my actions before it's too late as well, that kind of stuff. My dog Buddy was kind of a problem to our family in some ways but mostly because of some other reasons which wasn't his fault. He wasn't that old but wasn't that healthy either so I knew he wasn't going to last long and just tried to make do with what I had and it helped me get over it very fast knowing I treated him well and everything.
My grandpa's also in his eighties and most likely won't last too much longer. So I'm doing that same thing with him as I did with my dog, though I'd like to say I've always been doing that. Either way I'm getting a tattoo to represent him at some point. If everything goes well it'd be this summer, otherwise I'd have to wait until I'm 18 and get it on my own but I'll be getting it before he passes no matter what.
So yea just... prepare somehow. There's nothing worse than someone being taken from you and you griefing but with regret. I've heard too many people say they wish they'd done this or that before someone's passed, so don't be that person. Do whatever it is you think you should before it's too late.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Jhon on December 20, 2012, 03:17:53 PM
My great grandma died when I was about 3, but I barely remember her so it didn't really affected me. My cousin got murdered by a suicide bomber a week before her wedding. She died protecting her future-husband (it was on TV), I felt sad and everyone in my family did, but not for long. I was about 8.
My uncle died from a heart attack after drinking too much whine in a wedding (something with weddings in this family lol), went to his funeral, it was sad but a day after it I felt normal. Maybe cause I didn't know him too well. I was about 10.
I went to visit a grave of my cousin who died before I was born, was very sad to watch everybody crying, but since I didn't know her at all I didn't cry.
A day after I first met a sister of my grandma, both of which are holocaust survivors (went to visit her), she died of breast cancer which she had for a couple of years. I felt sad, but kinda happy because I thought maybe she was relieved to see her sister's grandchild and decided she can rest in peace. I was about 12.

At the age of 13, about a month after my bday and near the beginning of school, my grandpa was sent to hospital in critical condition. I used to visit him everyday and nearly everyday he would threaten my mom that if she leaves him he will die/suicide so it would take a while to calm him down every time we left. After a while his situation got worse and he was sent to some special area where he was drugged all the time and my family members wouldn't let me see him because they said I'm too young to see him like that. In the end he came out of it and survived through the impossible, but I still feel like it has scarred me and changed me a bit. I know it ain't death, but it affected me more than deaths of other family members.  He's 89 now btw and my grandma is 85 =P

My goldfish also ate themselves to death for some reason even though I gave them food and when I gave a banana to my pet snail I found him dead after a while D=

I never really cried over the death of someone though and I think that even if I will it will only be for a day or two. Because why waste my time crying over a dead person? If he was a close person to me then he would prefer me to smile and laugh. That's what I think anyway.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: ٶȻhriʂ on December 20, 2012, 04:17:44 PM
Why is it that when everyone is below the age of 8 and loses a loved one they feel sad but when my aunt passed away from cancer when i was like 4 i felt...nothing.

And the day when my grandad passed away due to having cancer like my aunt when i was 6,my grandma was crying so badly and all the other old people were trying to calm her down.

But me...why the fuck was i just sitting in a corner doing abosolutely nothing,just sitting there and staring blindly at my Grandmother.

But one strange thing that happened the night my Grandad died was when everyone went outside to him and left me at home,

i suddenly felt extremely scrared as fuck and didin't know what to do and i don't remember the rest.

The day of  his funeral i felt nothing yet again,i was just standing there doing nothing,i don't think i even looked at his grave.

So...why the hell did i not shed a single tear for anyone's death in my family? I have no idea how these things work
Title: Re: Death
Post by: pyrosheep on December 20, 2012, 04:21:55 PM
So what you suggest is to let people die so they won't experience any more pain, right?
If there isn't anything you can to about it then I think it would be selfish to not let them if they want to.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: ○ Μαρία ○ on December 20, 2012, 04:33:20 PM
Oh god. So basically I hate even the thought of death, which didn't really make seeing this topic all too pleasant. I fell into a bad depression last year for many reasons, and one of them was that I became obsessed with death. I had watched a lot of my old baby videos and I noticed that there were people in those videos that had died, and it reminded me that I will never get to see them again. The thought of the people around me dying breaks my heart, even just my dogs. My dog Lady died a couple months ago, and even though she was my least favorite of all of my dogs, I cried for 4 days straight, I was absolutely devastated. To me what makes death so hard is that it is the only thing in life you can not avoid, it is inevitable, and it is best not to dwell on, which is why I don't like it being brought up. When my time comes, who knows what'll happen, but I will say that no matter what happens, I'd much rather die then have to watch someone else close to me go.

Death also makes me think about our existence a lot. Like how our existence and this world are only seen from our eyes. How can I be sure this world is real, and what I am living through isn't a dream, or whatever it could be. What is existence, why do we exist, what are we really here for, and do we have no other purpose other then to dwell here? Is the universe really as big as we think, how could I think so throughly about things when I am such a small life form compared to the billions and billions of titanic things in our Solar System and beyond. I think about this quite often to my dismay, and it's kind of scary to be honest.


And that's where my faith comes in, my faith helps me cope with the fear of death.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: pyrosheep on December 20, 2012, 04:40:58 PM
Why is it that when everyone is below the age of 8 and loses a loved one they feel sad but when my aunt passed away from cancer when i was like 4 i felt...nothing.

And the day when my grandad passed away due to having cancer like my aunt when i was 6,my grandma was crying so badly and all the other old people were trying to calm her down.

But me...why the fuck was i just sitting in a corner doing abosolutely nothing,just sitting there and staring blindly at my Grandmother.

But one strange thing that happened the night my Grandad died was when everyone went outside to him and left me at home,

i suddenly felt extremely scrared as fuck and didin't know what to do and i don't remember the rest.

The day of  his funeral i felt nothing yet again,i was just standing there doing nothing,i don't think i even looked at his grave.

So...why the hell did i not shed a single tear for anyone's death in my family? I have no idea how these things work
Some people are just like that. I haven't cried in like 5 years, I've been sad and everything gotten choked up and stuff, like the Sandy Hook shooting made me choke about a bit, and it got me in a pretty depressed mood for a  day. But some people just don't like/or just don't show emotion as easily as others. My dad is exactly like me and the last time I saw him cry was when 9/11 happens, 11 years ago. Don't be worried about it, it's just how you're built.

Also sorry Marie if it's a touchy subject for you.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: ○ Μαρία ○ on December 20, 2012, 04:46:42 PM
Some people are just like that. I haven't cried in like 5 years, I've been sad and everything gotten choked up and stuff, like the Sandy Hook shooting made me choke about a bit, and it got me in a pretty depressed mood for a  day. But some people just don't like/or just don't show emotion as easily as others. My dad is exactly like me and the last time I saw him cry was when 9/11 happens, 11 years ago. Don't be worried about it, it's just how you're built.

Also sorry Marie if it's a touchy subject for you.
It's alright, my beliefs as I've said help me get through it. People might not agree with me, but when I think of God, everything seems to make more sense to me. The world seems less empty, like I have a purpose, like there is something to live for after life. I know there are those who think that type of thinking is foolish, but if it helps me live a healthy life, free of depression and the thought of dying and never seeing my loved ones again, then I am okay with that. I like being happy, and knowing a least one person cares about me even when I feel alone or sad.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: ·UηİŦ·· on December 20, 2012, 08:14:23 PM
Death.

I don't even know where to begin.

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Title: Re: Death
Post by: Jhon on December 21, 2012, 03:38:43 AM
It's alright, my beliefs as I've said help me get through it. People might not agree with me, but when I think of God, everything seems to make more sense to me. The world seems less empty, like I have a purpose, like there is something to live for after life. I know there are those who think that type of thinking is foolish, but if it helps me live a healthy life, free of depression and the thought of dying and never seeing my loved ones again, then I am okay with that. I like being happy, and knowing a least one person cares about me even when I feel alone or sad.

But even if you believe in god, it doesn't really change the face that we don't really have any purpose. So you die and reach heaven, what then?

I also kind of fell into depression last year when I started thinking too much about our purpose, death and how people can live so happily when there are millions of people which suffer everyday, but I figured that if it bothers me so much I should do something about it. Don't have a purpose? So my purpose became to be able to change things, so no one will have to suffer because they don't get even their basic needs. I don't care if it's impossible, I'll make it possible, and just that thought gives me strength, a good reason to live, a purpose.

Then I thought about death. I'm a human so one day my time will come too, but I don't want to die. So I decided I'll find a way to stay alive, and there are some scientists that say in 30 years we will have the technology to make people immortal. There are researches going on that are trying to find the way to make it happen. So I have another purpose, to get enough money to support those researches. If not for me then for everyone else that wishes to stay alive for longer.  Another reason I want to live longer is because I want to be alive when space traveling would be normal and part of the everyday life, maybe even meet aliens =P

My wishes might sound impossible, but for me they sound more possible than an existance of a god and it also gives me a better purpose and reason.
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Prox on December 21, 2012, 03:48:28 AM
I didn't thought that death could effect me or my close family members before I would get older, I was wrong, my father died when I was 13 years old, that was probably the biggest impact to me in my life. Since my father died while sleeping I became paranoid that the same thing might happen to my mom and she is the only family member I have left. Over time I've learned to live with that feeling.
   Now the thought of death doesn't really bother me much, even though my emotions tend to be strong and raise very quickly, but I do think I'm good at hiding them when needed and I also realize that thinking about it is pointless because all it would probably do is slow me down, and I want to make constant progress in my life. That's probably the main reason why death doesn't scare me that much.
   Another thing that makes me feel better about death is my belief that after death you reborn as a different person.
 
Title: Re: Death
Post by: Sabb on December 21, 2012, 09:24:00 AM
When it comes down to it, worrying about death at least for yourself is the dumbest thing you could possibly do really. Not saying that people who worry about death are dumb, but why bother ruining your mood or becoming obsessed with something you know nothing about when it's only going to if anything ruin your life? It's such a paradox, you worry about death because you won't have life, yet you worrying about death can make your life a lot worse. I personally don't believe there's anything after life because me to it just doesn't make sense that there would be. I don't think that there is any purpose to humanity really or anything. To me it's simply illogical. Though I'm sure a lot of people would argue the exact same but for the opposite side, saying it's illogical that there's no point to humanity. All just comes down to opinion and belief which is what it should be left as, But a lot of people rely on god or some belief, something after death to make that empty question not necessarily answered but more accurately to make it irrelevant. Which is what people need I think, for the question to not matter. So beliefs are a good thing but it depends on the person. Even though I don't think there's any high purpose to humanity and all that, I'm perfectly happy living with that idea. I don't need an answer to what's after death, I'd rather just live my life for what it is. What's after death will be there no matter how much I do or don't worry about it.