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Title: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Prox on August 18, 2012, 04:36:01 AM
Why do we even have it in the first place? Zs is already easy as it is, and that bonus usually just delays a few extra minutes until the last human is killed or sometimes even worse.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Deathie on August 18, 2012, 04:53:58 AM
I think that the health boost is fine, but the speed bonus isn't needed.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Samo on August 18, 2012, 05:02:52 AM
I think that the health boost is fine, but the speed bonus isn't needed.
The speed definitely needs to be lowered. We won't have as many quits from the last survivor running laps.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Loke on August 18, 2012, 09:44:27 AM
Just make the survivor's HP 100, not give them 100 hp
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Cariad† on August 18, 2012, 05:45:59 PM
I don't like the Boost at all. But what if it was just an armor boost and nothing else?

Sorry if this was a pointless bump. Armor would not be as difficult then speed and Health.

1. You can goomba stomp them(Which is pretty much what all the people do as the last human is alive).

2. They take fall damage.

3. No speed boost. Meaning you can hit them.



EDIT
Also the Armor will simulate the Health boost. But you take fall damage as normal.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: JIGSAW on August 19, 2012, 07:24:22 AM
Why do we even have it in the first place? Zs is already easy as it is, and that bonus usually just delays a few extra minutes until the last human is killed or sometimes even worse.

Well if you think about it, if your were the last human and the server was packed by like 25 people 1-24 so yeah that boost is pretty necessary in zombie survive. I mean think about it " if it ain't broke don't fix it"
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Prox on August 19, 2012, 07:40:35 AM
Well if you think about it, if your were the last human and the server was packed by like 25 people 1-24 so yeah that boost is pretty necessary in zombie survive. I mean think about it " if it ain't broke don't fix it"
Zs is already easy as it is, and that bonus usually just delays a few extra minutes until the last human is killed or sometimes even worse.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Deathie on August 19, 2012, 07:46:33 AM
I mean think about it " if it ain't broke don't fix it"

You do know the original ZS didn't have it in the first place


right
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: JIGSAW on August 19, 2012, 08:07:38 AM
Zs is already easy as it is, and that bonus usually just delays a few extra minutes until the last human is killed or sometimes even worse.

yeah but you also have to understand that were's the fun, I mean in my opinion if the bonus health were to get remove you might as well remove the weapon upgrades after 20 kills.

You do know the original ZS didn't have it in the first place


right

I wasn't implying that it there the whole time I meant that I think it worked out well for most people when it was added.

Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: memo3300 on August 19, 2012, 10:05:51 AM
Personally, before the health and boost update, i remember that if someone didn't get raped at the first minute of being last human , he had a lot of chances to win.

Even if you were in a plain area, you could survive for a minute or 2 on the last wave just by jumping and letting the fast zombies push you.



The health boost is OK, but the speed boost just gives a easy win for the last human.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Prox on August 19, 2012, 10:15:29 AM
yeah but you also have to understand that were's the fun, I mean in my opinion if the bonus health were to get remove you might as well remove the weapon upgrades after 20 kills.
I don't see any fun making the game easier as it already is for the survivors, besides I don't think it's fun for the zombies to chase 1 human for god knows how many time.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Travelsonic on August 19, 2012, 01:07:53 PM
yeah but you also have to understand that were's the fun, I mean in my opinion if the bonus health were to get remove you might as well remove the weapon upgrades after 20 kills.


Even the two are nothing alike, and cover two different areas of ZS?   ::)
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on August 21, 2012, 08:41:13 PM
Prox, honestly I feel like you are trying to take the fun out of this old ZS, and make people dislike it so that they like the new ZS

While I do agree we should remove the speed boost after entering water 100%. It should not be removed at all.

It's a simple feature that (how I think of it) is a prize for surviving and being the last person alive.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Deathie on August 21, 2012, 09:18:46 PM
prize for surviving and being the last person alive.
...what

It's a co-op gamemode.

Not a competition ._.

Oh man, getting rewarded for letting all your teammates die. Sweet.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on August 21, 2012, 09:26:58 PM
...what

It's a co-op gamemode.

Not a competition ._.

Oh man, getting rewarded for letting all your teammates die. Sweet.

Not letting them die, and the point of the game is to survive. And that's how I saw it as a prize lol
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Deacon on August 21, 2012, 09:30:41 PM
What if we did that though? removed last human bonus and replaced it with a "final stand" thing.

All zombies come back to life, but do not respawn after death. Human survives, humans win. If he dies, zombies win
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on August 21, 2012, 09:33:11 PM
What if we did that though? removed last human bonus and replaced it with a "final stand" thing.

All zombies come back to life, but do not respawn after death. Human survives, humans win. If he dies, zombies win

Now that. Seems like a cool idea lol.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Lazer Blade on August 21, 2012, 09:37:19 PM
What if we did that though? removed last human bonus and replaced it with a "final stand" thing.

All zombies come back to life, but do not respawn after death. Human survives, humans win. If he dies, zombies win

yes do want.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Prox on August 22, 2012, 02:51:44 AM
Prox, honestly I feel like you are trying to take the fun out of this old ZS, and make people dislike it so that they like the new ZS

While I do agree we should remove the speed boost after entering water 100%. It should not be removed at all.

It's a simple feature that (how I think of it) is a prize for surviving and being the last person alive.
Lol, you're not the first one to say this to me, because apparently if I like the new Zs better then the old one, then it automatically makes me want to ruin the old one. Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
What if we did that though? removed last human bonus and replaced it with a "final stand" thing.

All zombies come back to life, but do not respawn after death. Human survives, humans win. If he dies, zombies win

That's pretty good idea actually, but if it would happen that it couldn't be coded then my point still remains the same.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Travelsonic on August 22, 2012, 07:24:52 AM
... but if it would happen that it couldn't be coded ...

I wonder how it would NOT be doable.

Maybe takes planning to figure out HOW to do it, but well within the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Prox on August 22, 2012, 07:52:53 AM
I wonder how it would NOT be doable.

Maybe takes planning to figure out HOW to do it, but well within the realm of possibility.
I don't think we have a lot of coders in this community, that's what I meant by that.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Cryptokid on August 22, 2012, 10:48:57 AM
Its definitely a very good idea, but it would need tweaking for sure. Perhaps a health bonus for zombies or something in the last stand. I only say this because if the human is last man and he is caded, then he has an even higher chance of winning than usual. But I like the idea a lot.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Loke on August 22, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
Its definitely a very good idea, but it would need tweaking for sure. Perhaps a health bonus for zombies or something in the last stand. I only say this because if the human is last man and he is caded, then he has an even higher chance of winning than usual. But I like the idea a lot.

Last Stand
Zombies get revived, but no respawning
They have +200 health
They break ONE nail every time they hit a cade, and then they break a prop and aegis board in one
Humans gets 4 times ammo regen
Gets the speed boost
One hit from anything but a fastie is a instant kill.

That should make it so that its more on the challenging side.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on August 22, 2012, 03:16:53 PM
Its definitely a very good idea, but it would need tweaking for sure. Perhaps a health bonus for zombies or something in the last stand. I only say this because if the human is last man and he is caded, then he has an even higher chance of winning than usual. But I like the idea a lot.

Before we get into ideas and stuff to add we need to make sure it's doable first.
Title: Re: Remove last human bonus in Zs completely
Post by: Travelsonic on August 22, 2012, 04:20:20 PM
Before we get into ideas and stuff to add we need to make sure it's doable first.

Um... how would it not be, aside from the need to get programmers n board? I mean, it sounds like things gmod's LUA [and the existing zs code] could EASILY handle.