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Restricted (Read Only) => Senior Members => Topic started by: Prox on August 08, 2012, 03:19:52 AM
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BOOHOO AB RUINS OUR LIVES. Seriously people? I've been hearing you say that ab should not be taken seriously but that's what you all are doing it every damn time. Why do you take insults so seriously over the ab? Besides, have you ever thought of a possibility that after this people may not be such dumbshits just to avoid the same thing happening again? Of course it's a possibility.
Now it's funny that my thread received negative comments after I politely asked a simple question.
When will people stop giving a shit?
You're right, I shouldn't care that the community is crumbling apart.
It will be up once you stop fucking desperately asking for it to be up
Desperately asking? Are you stupid? What made you think that it was desperate?
OMG I JUST HAVE SUCH A CRAVING TO TALK SHIT ABOUT PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
Seriously, we don't need ab.
Oh yeah, I really miss those days when I could go and insult everyone on the ab and nobody would know it was me. Yeah, nah.
It's not like there weren't useful threads or anything.
It's mainly used as that and almost always resulted in it.
Please stop this stupid arguing about ab.
It will most likely go back up once everyone stops acting so juvenile about it.
In other words, when coolz sees fit.
Yes there were a lot of insulting and pointless shit in there but I'm willing to take a chance and hope that there would still be a useful and honest thread. You know why? Because insults in ab mean NOTHING and should mean nothing for all of you, unfortunately they don't...
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The thread lock seemed like an extreme measure. There was no warning and no reason. It wasn't even moderation, it was simple oppression.
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The only thing stopping /ab/ is pure stupidity. Threads either start out stupid or turn stupid with in 5-10 posts.
Maybe ID's would stop samefagging and other issues on a thread. They would change from thread to thread so you don't know who OP is or can connect an ID from one thread to another.
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I remember when I was a newbie in the rNd and I began to curse everyone.
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The only thing stopping /ab/ is pure stupidity. Threads either start out stupid or turn stupid with in 5-10 posts.
Maybe ID's would stop samefagging and other issues on a thread. They would change from thread to thread so you don't know who OP is or can connect an ID from one thread to another.
could easily use a proxy to avoid this
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could easily use a proxy to avoid this
Even then, it'd be another step to go through just to bother. So I think it would probably stop the ones who don't feel like spamming is their only purpose.
Maybe Captcha?
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Even then, it'd be another step to go through just to bother. So I think it would probably stop the ones who don't feel like spamming is their only purpose.
Maybe Captcha?
i don't think spamming is too much of an issue now.. but yea i think proxy is pretty easy thing to use.. but if it were really to be anonymous.. wouldn't tracking by ip make that kind of pointless? So i'd rather not do that. There is another way to do tracking without violating this but it is even easier to work around.
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i don't think spamming is too much of an issue now.. but yea i think proxy is pretty easy thing to use.. but if it were really to be anonymous.. wouldn't tracking by ip make that kind of pointless? So i'd rather not do that. There is another way to do tracking without violating this but it is even easier to work around.
Can you see the PMs people send in the forums?
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Can you see the PMs people send in the forums?
As the data is stored within a database...
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As the data is stored within a database...
But can you do it from your account INSIDE the forums?
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But can you do it from your account INSIDE the forums?
Regardless its trivial for that data to be accessed :/
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Regardless its trivial for that data to be accessed :/
Is it very hard to make something like that, but for IPs in the ab?
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Is it very hard to make something like that, but for IPs in the ab?
No but doesn't that violate the value of anonymity?
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No but doesn't that violate the value of anonymity?
It might be not absolutely and completely anonymous, but if only you are able to access it, I don't think it should be that bad.
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No but doesn't that violate the value of anonymity?
It would definitely get rid of the samefagging, which seems to be the main problem.
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It would definitely get rid of the samefagging, which seems to be the main problem.
I'm surprised you agree with that. If something like this were actually implemented, I would have no problem with ab opening again. It would stop some of the more absolutely useless arguments at least.
The other thread was locked because I don't want people bitching and arguing over yet another extremely trivial issue. As is people have been arguing with each other a lot lately, obviously, and I'd rather people just get over this ab issue on their own and not make the community miserable by it. So Prox, it wasn't locked in any way because of you.
And no I won't lock this thread because so far no one's just trying to cause stupid arguments. So, continue.
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I only agree with it if it's thread-specific, though. No need for it to span all of /ab/.
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>an actually intelligent thread comes up
>5 posts later
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It would definitely get rid of the samefagging, which seems to be the main problem.
but its avoidable too..
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but its avoidable too..
Unless you really don't feel like doing it, I don't think that should stop you from doing it. It will never be impossible to samefag, but you can always make it harder.
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Unless you really don't feel like doing it, I don't think that should stop you from doing it. It will never be impossible to samefag, but you can always make it harder.
so you think its worth it then?
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so you think its worth it then?
Do it.
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Why not just install a chanscript?
Easy monitoring for coolz, people can report threads that directly attack other users instead of trying to start any legitimate discussion, tripcodes, and we get to post all the cat pictures we want.
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Why not just install a chanscript?
Easy monitoring for coolz, people can report threads that directly attack other users instead of trying to start any legitimate discussion, tripcodes, and we get to post all the cat pictures we want.
I think that might get too heavy to handle.
But yes, I say go for it coolz, like Seb.
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I'd say do whatever you can.
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Why not just install a chanscript?
Easy monitoring for coolz, people can report threads that directly attack other users instead of trying to start any legitimate discussion, tripcodes, and we get to post all the cat pictures we want.
I don't agree with this idea, it's too much.
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AB sounds horrible.
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Perhaps it's a good time to unlock it right now because people might have learned that spamming, samefagging and talking useless shit will just get the board locked again. Even if the same shit starts occurring the board can be locked anytime again.
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If I'm correct, a chanscript uses up niggerloads of memory. It wouldn't be so bad if we could either limit the amount of threads or just disable image posting in it.
It wouldn't be a half bad idea, in my opinion, to archive and delete all the current AB threads and start fresh.
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cumon step it up
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cumon step it up
wait for coolz dsgfidjsfsdfnhdjsfak
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Well, if we can't get a chanscript going, at least have something similar to janitors for admins.
AB's going to be shit again if we can't handle shitposting in some way.
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Well, if we can't get a chanscript going, at least have something similar to janitors for admins.
AB's going to be shit again if we can't handle shitposting in some way.
Agreed.
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Well, if we can't get a chanscript going, at least have something similar to janitors for admins.
AB's going to be shit again if we can't handle shitposting in some way.
Hahaha for admins? No way. I think coolz should be the only one allowed to moderate.
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Hahaha for admins? No way. I think coolz should be the only one allowed to moderate.
You know what a janitor is
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You know what a janitor is
right
Yes, I know. And I don't like it. But then again, it's all up to coolz.
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Yes, I know. And I don't like it. But then again, it's all up to coolz.
So you trust us with the power to permanently ban people, but not the ability to delete posts that go "lolsorandumurhur"
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So you trust us with the power to permanently ban people, but not the ability to delete posts that go "lolsorandumurhur"
Holla holla holla, I never chose any admin. I didn't choose you nor Sabb. And no, I don't want you deleting lolsorandumurhur.
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Hahaha for admins? No way. I think coolz should be the only one allowed to moderate.
Then it wouldn't be moderated. coolz has enough to manage. And the only moderators that are active currently are me and Snivy. Neither of us would actually mess with shit we shouldn't and any admin to potentially be promoted wouldn't either otherwise there would be problems.
Holla holla holla, I never chose any admin. I didn't choose you nor Sabb. And no, I don't want you deleting lolsorandumurhur.
So you'd rather just not have ab. Works for me.
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Then it wouldn't be moderated. coolz has enough to manage. And the only moderators that are active currently are me and Snivy. Neither of us would actually mess with shit we shouldn't and any admin to potentially be promoted wouldn't either otherwise there would be problems.
So you'd rather just not have ab. Works for me.
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That's basically the reality of the situation. If there's no change to ab to help moderate it in some form, then it'll just remain down most likely.
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That's basically the reality of the situation. If there's no change to ab to help moderate it in some form, then it'll just remain down most likely.
Well then. I'd rather speak somewhere else than in a semi-freedom.
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Well then. I'd rather speak somewhere else than in a semi-freedom.
It's freedom, you're just expected to not cause unnecessary problems. Don't see how that could be such a problem.
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Isn't the point of AB the opposite of these forums?
Without absolute freedom, what's the point?
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Isn't the point of AB the opposite of these forums?
Without absolute freedom, what's the point?
Actually with a couple of threads people describe as "full retard spam" bring up a valid point. Just you have to decipher it in the OP.
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Isn't the point of AB the opposite of these forums?
Without absolute freedom, what's the point?
Discussing other members, yourself, topics you'd rather discuss with anonymity, anything not involving being a total unnecessary twat?
Again, it's either have it slightly moderated in some way to help prevent shit resulting in it just being taken down again, or simply keeping it down. Or at least that's how I'm assuming it's going to be. I'm sure you would rather have that than absolutely no ab. If it were moderated by admins it obviously wouldn't be moderated nearly as much as these forums are. It's not like every thread with the slightest show of aggression or negativity would be removed. I personally don't like a lot of shit that was posted on ab but it's basically the purpose of the thread. So even with my personal opinion I wouldn't be carried away with removing and managing shit. It would mostly just be to eliminate the more serious offensive threads which result in the community becoming far more aggressive with each other. I can say I have noticed a difference since ab went down. It seems to me at least that people are simply arguing less.
And idc if that's just because you're now deciding to keep negative shit to yourself because you don't want to say it without being offense. Still has the same outcome for the community.
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What if the same old ab would be up until coolz makes a better version of it? It could be closed at any time anyways.
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I stand true to my point. I want freedom, or nothing.
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Discussing other members, yourself, topics you'd rather discuss with anonymity, anything not involving being a total unnecessary twat?
Again, it's either have it slightly moderated in some way to help prevent shit resulting in it just being taken down again, or simply keeping it down. Or at least that's how I'm assuming it's going to be. I'm sure you would rather have that than absolutely no ab. If it were moderated by admins it obviously wouldn't be moderated nearly as much as these forums are. It's not like every thread with the slightest show of aggression or negativity would be removed. I personally don't like a lot of shit that was posted on ab but it's basically the purpose of the thread. So even with my personal opinion I wouldn't be carried away with removing and managing shit. It would mostly just be to eliminate the more serious offensive threads which result in the community becoming far more aggressive with each other. I can say I have noticed a difference since ab went down. It seems to me at least that people are simply arguing less.
And idc if that's just because you're now deciding to keep negative shit to yourself because you don't want to say it without being offense. Still has the same outcome for the community.
Oh.
I guess we have different views.
I don't care what they're saying about who, or how offensive it is.
Even if they're slinging shit around, as long as they have actual, coherent sentences, that's fine.
I just want the power to delete those stupid thread that were like "LOL MOST VIEWED THREAD ON AB" and retarded bullshit like that.
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Oh.
I guess we have different views.
I don't care what they're saying about who, or how offensive it is.
Even if they're slinging shit around, as long as they have actual, coherent sentences, that's fine.
I just want the power to delete those stupid thread that were like "LOL MOST VIEWED THREAD ON AB" and retarded bullshit like that.
Well those threads weren't the reason ab was taken down.
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Give me Liberty, or give me Death!
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or give me Death!
I'm right here though.
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I'm right here though.
LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA
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Well those threads weren't the reason ab was taken down.
It was taken down because some idiots were constantly spamming and samefagging and some people with precious personalities couldn't take insults.
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It was taken down because some idiots were constantly spamming and samefagging and some people with precious personalities couldn't take insults.
Just... lol
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Just... lol
Prove me wrong.
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and some people with precious personalities couldn't take insults.
Just... lol
I mean, while the way he put it was kind of dugdhugh,
I kind of agree.
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I mean, while the way he put it was kind of dugdhugh,
I kind of agree.
There's no reason people need to turn into absolute twats when they realize no one's going to realize it's them posting. It's completely unnecessary and as I said clearly only made the community more frustrated. It's simply in absolutely no way worth it.
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I mean, while the way he put it was kind of dugdhugh,
Just putting it shortest way possible.
There's no reason people need to turn into absolute twats when they realize no one's going to realize it's them posting. It's completely unnecessary and as I said clearly only made the community more frustrated. It's simply in absolutely no way worth it.
If one posts same bullshit over and over again then I consider it spamming, but I think that if the person that is being offended wouldn't give OP wanted attention then it could be reduced to a minimum.
And how is it not worth it? I mean, even if the same shit happens nobody will lose their money and coolz will be able to shut it down anytime. I say we give it a try.
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Just putting it shortest way possible.If one posts same bullshit over and over again then I consider it spamming, but I think that if the person that is being offended wouldn't give OP wanted attention then it could be reduced to a minimum.
And how is it not worth it? I mean, even if the same shit happens nobody will lose their money and coolz will be able to shut it down anytime. I say we give it a try.
Because it will have to be watched, it's just a nuisance. And it's not even that the people being insulted even give attention to who ever's doing it. They egg each other on there, the person they're talking about doesn't even have to be involved.
I seriously don't get why you guys don't just get over your shit attitudes towards it. If everyone could just not post like a total douchebag then there would be no problem with keeping ab up, but you're all basically saying "no, I want to be an asshole to whoever I want, I want freedom!"
Just doesn't work like that.
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Because it will have to be watched, it's just a nuisance. And it's not even that the people being insulted even give attention to who ever's doing it. They egg each other on there, the person they're talking about doesn't even have to be involved.
I seriously don't get why you guys don't just get over your shit attitudes towards it. If everyone could just not post like a total douchebag then there would be no problem with keeping ab up, but you're all basically saying "no, I want to be an asshole to whoever I want, I want freedom!"
Just doesn't work like that.
Do you think, that I'm a complete idiot and I want ab back to only insult people without a reason?
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Do you think, that I'm a complete idiot and I want ab back to only insult people without a reason?
No and that doesn't make you an idiot even if that was your intention. I don't know why you want ab up though, I recall seeing you argue about people there a lot while it was up.
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Do you think, that I'm a complete idiot and I want ab back to only insult people without a reason?
No, but you do like to be a little bitch about things when you don't get your way.
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No, but you do like to be a little bitch about things when you don't get your way.
Could you just shut up for once? Am I not allowed to defend my opinion without you saying shit?
No and that doesn't make you an idiot even if that was your intention. I don't know why you want ab up though, I recall seeing you argue about people there a lot while it was up.
I did argued there, but saying a lot is wrong because I only argued a few times. And I don't recall arguing without a good reason there so I don't really see how it's a bad thing.
And why I want ab up is because of it's great potential to have discussions with completely honest opinions, but well, the downsides which we all know well seem to occur very often, but I don't really care that much, but I guess if it will still effect people so much, then there would be no other choice but shut it down, unless of course we will come with some kind of new system for it.
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Could you just shut up for once? Am I not allowed to defend my opinion without you saying shit?I did argued there, but saying a lot is wrong because I only argued a few times. And I don't recall arguing without a good reason there so I don't really see how it's a bad thing.
And why I want ab up is because of it's great potential to have discussions with completely honest opinions, but well, the downsides which we all know well seem to occur very often, but I don't really care that much, but I guess if it will still effect people so much, then there would be no other choice but shut it down, unless of course we will come with some kind of new system for it.
I meant arguing against the behaviour in ab.
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Could you just shut up for once? Am I not allowed to defend my opinion without you saying shit?
Now you're going to get all defensive? I wouldn't normally give a shit, but every single reply you made makes it sound like whoever you're talking to just killed your dog.
BOOHOO AB RUINS OUR LIVES
Now it's funny that my thread received negative comments after I politely asked a simple question.
Desperately asking? Are you stupid? What made you think that it was desperate?
Oh yeah, I really miss those days when I could go and insult everyone on the ab and nobody would know it was me. Yeah, nah.
and some people with precious personalities couldn't take insults.
Prove me wrong.
Do you think, that I'm a complete idiot and I want ab back to only insult people without a reason?
Take some estrogen pills or some shit. Fuck. You seriously need to take your bitching down a notch or two.
Or six.
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Because it will have to be watched, it's just a nuisance. And it's not even that the people being insulted even give attention to who ever's doing it. They egg each other on there, the person they're talking about doesn't even have to be involved.
I seriously don't get why you guys don't just get over your shit attitudes towards it. If everyone could just not post like a total douchebag then there would be no problem with keeping ab up, but you're all basically saying "no, I want to be an asshole to whoever I want, I want freedom!"
Just doesn't work like that.
Holy shit man, "no, I want to be an asshole to whoever I want, I want freedom!" how fucking dim do you even have to be to say something like that? You seriously seem to only see the insults on ab and nothing more.
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Holy shit man, "no, I want to be an asshole to whoever I want, I want freedom!" how fucking dim do you even have to be to say something like that? You seriously seem to only see the insults on ab and nothing more.
Not at all. I know there were some genuine discussions and shit but the retarded posts and just douchebag posts completely outweighed that.
If you couldn't tell, I just don't like most people's attitude and that was basically all I saw on ab. You can't deny that even when there was some sort of a legitimate discussion that wasn't bad, it never ended well. Either with people posting stupid stuff because they've got a terrible sense of humour or obviously with some sort of heated argument turning into really stupid attacks on eachother.
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Now you're going to get all defensive? I wouldn't normally give a shit, but every single reply you made makes it sound like whoever you're talking to just killed your dog.
Take some estrogen pills or some shit. Fuck. You seriously need to take your bitching down a notch or two.
Or six.
>bitching
Haha, good one.
Also I never felt better, Snivy, thanks for asking.
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You betrayed the LAAWW!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aaubVlhNK4#ws)
I'm caught up.
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Just because of this, ab is never going to be up again.
Oh well its not like it was important anyway.
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The AB has caused nothing but frustration and tension in the community while it was up, and even while it was down. People will always have different opinions on it and there will never be something everyone can come to agreement on. However, I do say that putting it back up won't hurt anyone but the emotions of people weak to trolling/criticism. If it gets so bad to the point of people having to come and complain about it on the actual forums again, and make a completely unnecessary scene, then it should be taken down again. The AB was something Coolz implemented here for us to use, he didn't have to, but he did. All this complaining is making it seem like you all have a right to have the AB, when that is simply not the case.
This whole situation is childish; realize that not everyone will think the same way you do about situations and all this foolish arguing can be avoided. You may think the AB had actual discussion, where as others might've just seen the (past) 20 pages of nothing but spam. Some people probably did use it just to talk bad about others, were as others might've done it to have a personal discussion with the lack of others judging them based on who they are as a person. It's all about who you are , and how well you can handle things like this. How I look at it is, once all this complaining/begging about this AB stops, then it will probably come back. Until then I don't see it coming back anytime soon.
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How I look at it is, once all this complaining/begging about this AB stops, then it will probably come back. Until then I don't see it coming back anytime soon.
It'll come back once coolz sees that all the little boys and girls can play nice with each other.
In other words, it's never coming back.
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Oh shit, I don't really give a fuck about people having the feelings hurt because of the anonyboard. If you feel it harms you, don't go there. And if somebody goes and tell you about how people are insulting you on the ab, well then it's your friend's problem. If it hurts you, why would they even tell you?
You seem to not know which is the childish side.
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Oh shit, I don't really give a fuck about people having the feelings hurt because of the anonyboard. If you feel it harms you, don't go there. And if somebody goes and tell you about how people are insulting you on the ab, well then it's your friend's problem. If it hurts you, why would they even tell you?
You seem to not know which is the childish side.
If people actually did this, then population would be like around 5-10. I'm still neutral in this meaning I don't care if AB will come up or not, that's up for coolz to decide. New thread title sums this whole thread up.
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This is the same steaming pile of shit that drives me out. the anonymous board was intended as a way to discuss problems we had with the servers, rules, and various administration. It was not intended for personal attacks on individuals, but logical and reasonable consideration of problems. Which it was not. I wouldn't like to see it back because i'd rather promote an open discussion system such as the "respect free discussion' board where anonymity is not required to speak ones mine. there is no reason you should be judged for your opinion and anyone that gives you shit for it......well you learn about people anyway.
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Oh shit, I don't really give a fuck about people having the feelings hurt because of the anonyboard. If you feel it harms you, don't go there. And if somebody goes and tell you about how people are insulting you on the ab, well then it's your friend's problem. If it hurts you, why would they even tell you?
You seem to not know which is the childish side.
This just makes me want to punch humanity. Seriously, you're calling people childish for possibly being hurt by what people say about them in an extremely insulting manner on an anonymous board? Wtf? But dealing with your issues with other players by attacking their personality even though they're really not even a bad person or usually doing anything wrong is the mature thing? The people that I know may possibly have actually been hurt by shit said on ab aren't even the ones arguing here. I don't honestly care much about what people say or have said about me on ab because it's pretty much all incredibly stupid, biased, and juvenile. I only argue here because I see it's clearly got an extremely negative impact on the community and I don't like it. While ab was up all everyone was talking about in ts and shit was about peoples' posts and getting pissed off at each other and shit like that. It directly caused people to react poorly to situations.
Think for a second Frank. You've acted on here before so different than you do now. Constantly defending your friends when you could, and just generally being understanding such as with controversial topics that would come up or w.e with beatings or shit like that. Not even beatings necessarily, just bullying in general or anything along those lines. I'd usually see you standing up for people and shit. Your whole argument right now is clearly different from how you used to be. I don't know if it's because you've changed or if you just don't realize how inconsistent your attitude with this stuff is. Your priorities just seem so different now. Different in the way of benefiting yourself entirely and not others. At least that's what I see.
So aside from the few individuals who for some reason think ab is the best thing to come to RND for their own amusement/posting/whatever, having ab up only did at least cause problems and really had VERY little to NO benefit to the community. So what's the point? It's not going to be up just to please a select few of gossipy members.
All I'm saying though is that people need to not think of ab as a tool to try and put down other players. ab could be perfectly fine, but it's the members that ruined it. If everyone here had calmed down about the ab stuff and simply shown a better attitude towards it I'm sure it would already be re-opened or at least being considered more so than it is now. But based off of the posts in this thread it just sounds like it's going to be the exact same thing again. And the people that are arguing to get ab back up aren't even attempting to argue that it would be any different with less shitty posts and w.e. So just re-opening it would be pointless as the same issues would remain.
The one good thing I do see however is that the interest in ab has seemed to die down a lot more and I'm seeing fewer people arguing to just re-open ab and continue the shitty content of it. Which is slightly promising, but my worry is still that the outcome of ab would be the same and that it would just draw some of the members further apart. Again, in this you really need to not just think of yourself. The point of ab was to benefit the community, not just me or you.