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Title: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 06, 2012, 12:23:17 PM

I'd rather put this in this board so we can have a nice, lovely discussion on what is wrong with today's current gaming market.

From my view point:

No one releases a full game anymore without putting the other 50% out on DLC which will total up to more than or equal to the original game value. So you're basically paying for full two games.

Corporations start rolling out stupid shit like premium subscriptions where you pay for the full game again, just to get a bunch of maps and some stupid unique combat knife/assault rifle.

The whole gaming market is directed toward FPS games, no paying attention to anything else other than exercise games and retarded motion games.

Large Corporations (EA, Activsion ect.) like to shit out the same game and slap a new box on them and sell them for $60, knowing that casuals/13 year old kids will keep on buying them, just because it has a name such as "Call of Duty" or "Need for Speed".

I'd love to go more in-dept with this if necessary. Now post your opinions about the current gen market.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Shockah on June 06, 2012, 01:20:56 PM

Quote from: Cake ecaF on June 06, 2012, 12:23:17 PM

I'd rather put this in this board so we can have a nice, lovely discussion on what is wrong with today's current gaming market.

From my view point:

No one releases a full game anymore without putting the other 50% out on DLC which will total up to more than or equal to the original game value. So you're basically paying for full two games.

Corporations start rolling out stupid shit like premium subscriptions where you pay for the full game again, just to get a bunch of maps and some stupid unique combat knife/assault rifle.

The whole gaming market is directed toward FPS games, no paying attention to anything else other than exercise games and retarded motion games.

Large Corporations (EA, Activsion ect.) like to shit out the same game and slap a new box on them and sell them for $60, knowing that casuals/13 year old kids will keep on buying them, just because it has a name such as "Call of Duty" or "Need for Speed".

I'd love to go more in-dept with this if necessary. Now post your opinions about the current gen market.

You pretty much nailed it.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Dale Feles on June 06, 2012, 01:35:09 PM

My biggest question about this generation of gaming is : When will kids realize they are buying horrible crappy products? I mean, It's like if there's a gun and it shoots with good graphics included it's a good game.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 06, 2012, 01:46:58 PM

Quote from: Silent on June 06, 2012, 01:35:09 PM

My biggest question about this generation of gaming is : When will kids realize they are buying horrible crappy products? I mean, It's like if there's a gun and it shoots with good graphics included it's a good game.

Eventually they'll catch onto it with the same fucking CoD game every year (Seriously, when was the last time they actually took the time to change a few game mechanics?) and stop buying their shit.

People stop buying shit from EA and other corps

They begin to lose profit

Eventually start to go down

Once EA and other shitholes like Activision are out of the picture, indie developers can finally come out of the caves without fear of being bought out/ran outta competition

Actual good video games will flourish the market once again until an indie developer grows into another EA, then the cycle repeats.

But that sure as hell won't happen for a long time.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Dale Feles on June 06, 2012, 02:00:41 PM

Quote from: Cake ecaF on June 06, 2012, 01:46:58 PM

Eventually they'll catch onto it with the same fucking CoD game every year (Seriously, when was the last time they actually took the time to change a few game mechanics?) and stop buying their shit.

People stop buying shit from EA and other corps

They begin to lose profit

Eventually start to go down

Once EA and other shitholes like Activision are out of the picture, indie developers can finally come out of the caves without fear of being bought out/ran outta competition

Actual good video games will flourish the market once again until an indie developer grows into another EA, then the cycle repeats.

But that sure as hell won't happen for a long time.

Also if EA realizes they're making less profit, I'm pretty sure they might start putting more efforts in the games they publish... Although that might end up like another CoD series game, good at first, then horrible as more sequels come out.

Oh will there ever be a perfect game company.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Rocket50 on June 06, 2012, 04:37:03 PM

Quote from: Cake ecaF on June 06, 2012, 12:23:17 PM

From my view point:

No one releases a full game anymore without putting the other 50% out on DLC which will total up to more than or equal to the original game value. So you're basically paying for full two games.

Corporations start rolling out stupid shit like premium subscriptions where you pay for the full game again, just to get a bunch of maps and some stupid unique combat knife/assault rifle.

The whole gaming market is directed toward FPS games, no paying attention to anything else other than exercise games and retarded motion games.

Large Corporations (EA, Activsion ect.) like to shit out the same game and slap a new box on them and sell them for $60, knowing that casuals/13 year old kids will keep on buying them, just because it has a name such as "Call of Duty" or "Need for Speed".

I'd love to go more in-dept with this if necessary. Now post your opinions about the current gen market.

The things your griping about happen almost exclusively with a EA and Activision, aka, not the ENTIRE gaming industry. No other company but EA would do cash grabs like these without an uproar because EA doesn't give a shit about its reputation and Activision knows that it will always have the little kiddies buy up whatever it shits out every year.

DLC for the most part is fair:

-The game is released with enough content to constitute a game
-The developers decide to make more for the game post-release
-They charge for it

That's not a bad practice when it is reasonably priced. But when you attempt to sell it at a price higher than the game itself, then that's a problem and like I said, no one but EA and Activision have done it and gone out unscathed.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Samo on June 06, 2012, 04:42:04 PM

Here in Australia, they release the latest Call of Duty (on console) for $120, the "limited edition" for $160 and that "prestige edition" for $240. All it came with was a remote control car. And you guys think you have it bad.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Astropilot on June 06, 2012, 04:58:20 PM

I  :thumbsup: ed on "No one releases a full game anymore"

Really now. All of a sudden you pay for your game and you have to pay for more shit to have a better experience. And what's worse is that it isn't free. That kind of marketing is for MMOs. Not full solid games, that you pay around 30-50 dollars with.

The times when you should release an expansion pack is when your fans really like the game and want more experience of it. Now they just release 1/4th of the game while the other parts are still being made.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 06, 2012, 05:04:40 PM

Quote from: Rocket50 on June 06, 2012, 04:37:03 PM

The things your griping about happen almost exclusively with a EA and Activision, aka, not the ENTIRE gaming industry. No other company but EA would do cash grabs like these without an uproar because EA doesn't give a shit about its reputation and Activision knows that it will always have the little kiddies buy up whatever it shits out every year.

DLC for the most part is fair:

-The game is released with enough content to constitute a game
-The developers decide to make more for the game post-release
-They charge for it

That's not a bad practice when it is reasonably priced. But when you attempt to sell it at a price higher than the game itself, then that's a problem and like I said, no one but EA and Activision have done it and gone out unscathed.

True. But just when like 9 or 8 years ago where you could thrive off of a PS2/Gamecube/Xbox Game for months...even years without the need for DLC, and look at today's market where you can beat games within a week and have an option buy DLC to keep replenishing the gameplay...just kinda sad that you can't play games like you could anymore.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: cogsandspigots on June 06, 2012, 05:06:17 PM

I have to say that Bethesda and Relic are doing it right in the DLC department.
And Valve is just Valve.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 06, 2012, 05:09:35 PM

Quote from: cogsandspigots on June 06, 2012, 05:06:17 PM

I have to say that Bethesda and Relic are doing it right in the DLC department.
And Valve is just Valve.

Pfft, Valve doesn't even need DLC, they use the wonderful tactic (that so many compnies despise) of releasing mod tools to users can build and create their own content and share it with everyone for free. So generally, a valve game will never truly get stale as there's always going to be mods for it.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Rocket50 on June 06, 2012, 05:24:51 PM

Quote from: Cake ecaF on June 06, 2012, 05:04:40 PM

True. But just when like 9 or 8 years ago where you could thrive off of a PS2/Gamecube/Xbox Game for months...even years without the need for DLC, and look at today's market where you can beat games within a week and have an option buy DLC to keep replenishing the gameplay...just kinda sad that you can't play games like you could anymore.

8 or 9 years ago, barely anything was connected to the internet so there's no reason to say that without DLC or with DLC could've changed anything. That's still true today, there's games that don't have DLC that still thrive, namely Amnesia, Minecraft, etc. and there's games that don't thrive, same as 8 or 9 years ago.

And you have to understand that developers can't just put everything they want into a game. If you listen to commentaries, they talk about how they could've added more but there is only a limited time and budget. Not to say that all developers are like this, but most of them.

Sums it up:

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4:42 PM - Cake Face: > DLC for the most part is fair
4:42 PM - Rocket50: DLC isnt bad
4:42 PM - Rocket50: its just shitty when priced over 5 bucks
4:43 PM - Cake Face: which is a large majority of the market
4:43 PM - Cake Face: stuff like fallout DLC
4:43 PM - Rocket50: welllll
4:43 PM - Rocket50: not 5 bucks
4:43 PM - Cake Face: can be handled
4:43 PM - Rocket50: more like 10
4:43 PM - Cake Face: because betheseda actually released the full game
4:43 PM - Rocket50: mm
4:43 PM - Rocket50: hmmm
4:43 PM - Cake Face: some fallout 3 dlc was bullshit
4:43 PM - Cake Face: because it added stuff that should have been added in the original game
4:44 PM - Rocket50: development cycles
4:44 PM - Rocket50: they dont have infinite money
4:44 PM - Rocket50: and they have to sell their product somewhere down the line
4:44 PM - Rocket50: and have make cuts
4:44 PM - Rocket50: to get the release date
4:44 PM - Rocket50: on time
4:44 PM - Rocket50: not all companies are private
4:44 PM - Rocket50: Lot's of game devs would love to improve their games
4:44 PM - Rocket50: but they have a deadline
4:44 PM - Cake Face: and they do through updates
4:45 PM - Cake Face: and actually fix stuff/add new shit for free
4:45 PM - Rocket50: fix stuff is a given
4:45 PM - Rocket50: new shit
4:45 PM - Rocket50: depends
4:45 PM - Cake Face: well some add new shit
4:45 PM - Rocket50: they are a corporation
4:45 PM - Cake Face: but some corporations take the dlc thing too far...
4:46 PM - Rocket50: yeah
4:46 PM - Rocket50: im talking about
4:46 PM - Cake Face: like $10 for a 15 pack of cars
4:46 PM - Cake Face: for racing games
4:46 PM - Cake Face: understandable
4:46 PM - Rocket50: okay
4:46 PM - Rocket50: i have a different gripe about that
4:46 PM - Rocket50: my own
4:46 PM - Cake Face: but $15
4:46 PM - Cake Face: just for 3 map packs...
4:46 PM - Cake Face: err 3-4 maps
4:46 PM - Rocket50: if the cars/weapons are just for looks
4:46 PM - Rocket50: i dont care
4:46 PM - Rocket50: if they provide power
4:46 PM - Rocket50: that pisses me off
4:46 PM - Rocket50: to a new level
4:47 PM - Rocket50: also
4:47 PM - Rocket50: once game is released
4:47 PM - Rocket50: everything developedp assed it not intended for sale
4:47 PM - Rocket50: is essentially cutting into company money
4:47 PM - Cake Face: wat?
4:47 PM - Rocket50: Once
4:47 PM - Rocket50: a game is released
4:48 PM - Rocket50: everything developed passed that date
4:48 PM - Rocket50: and not intended for sale
4:48 PM - Rocket50: is essentially cutting into company money
4:48 PM - Cake Face: how so?
4:48 PM - Rocket50: they arent selling it
4:48 PM - Rocket50: its free
4:49 PM - Cake Face: but once again, that's where the large giant corporations come in
4:49 PM - Cake Face: EA and Activision
4:49 PM - Cake Face: if they develope crap past release date
4:49 PM - Cake Face: and release it for free
4:50 PM - Cake Face: they use that excuse
4:50 PM - Cake Face: that it cuts into money
4:50 PM - Cake Face: so while the game companies themselves want to release it for free
4:50 PM - Cake Face: it's down to the opinion by their final owner
4:50 PM - Cake Face: and DICE and EA
4:50 PM - Rocket50: and i said
4:50 PM - Cake Face: Dice said they'll never charge for map packs
4:50 PM - Rocket50: thats usually fair
4:50 PM - Rocket50: when
4:50 PM - Cake Face: but
4:50 PM - Rocket50: its not EA
4:50 PM - Rocket50: and Activision
4:51 PM - Rocket50: becuase you know
4:51 PM - Cake Face: but what content are you having in mind when you say it's "usuallly fair"?
4:51 PM - Rocket50: faggots
4:51 PM - Rocket50: vanity
4:51 PM - Cake Face: shit like map packs?
4:51 PM - Rocket50: like skins
4:51 PM - Rocket50: and shiny uber super awesome hats
4:51 PM - Rocket50: decal
4:51 PM - Rocket50: that shit
4:51 PM - Rocket50: maps
4:52 PM - Rocket50: are kind of a flip flop
4:52 PM - Cake Face: >$9 just for a top hat
4:52 PM - Rocket50: thats fine
4:52 PM - Rocket50: you dont have to buy it
4:52 PM - Rocket50: it doesnt influence the gamplay
4:52 PM - Rocket50: at ALL
4:53 PM - Cake Face: but would it be something that you aquire down the road?
4:53 PM - Rocket50: wouldnt matter
4:53 PM - Cake Face: that you actually don't have to buy it
4:53 PM - Rocket50: still vanity
4:53 PM - Rocket50: if i really wanted it
4:53 PM - Rocket50: when w/e
4:54 PM - Cake Face: but releasticaly speaking
4:54 PM - Cake Face: $9 just for a tophat?
4:54 PM - Cake Face: you're willing buy it?
4:54 PM - Rocket50: realistically speaking
4:54 PM - Rocket50: i wouldnt
4:54 PM - Rocket50: so
4:54 PM - Rocket50: it wouldnt matter to me
4:54 PM - Rocket50: one way or the other
4:55 PM - Cake Face: well in the first place no game that I know that is a major hat simulator doesn't have only paid exclusive hats
4:55 PM - Cake Face: so I really don't care about that
4:55 PM - Cake Face: but stuff like skins and map packs...
4:55 PM - Cake Face: skins it kinda depends like you said
4:55 PM - Cake Face: if it's cock of duty, of course it'll be $15 for some shitty AK skin
4:55 PM - Rocket50: but then
4:55 PM - Rocket50: why would it matter to you
4:56 PM - Rocket50: if you wouldnt buy it
4:56 PM - Rocket50: 4:55 PM - Cake Face: well in the first place no game that I know that is a major hat simulator doesn't have only paid exclusive hats
4:56 PM - Rocket50: >Tf2
4:56 PM - Rocket50: >brink
4:56 PM - Cake Face: >TF2, you can unlock everything without buying
4:56 PM - Rocket50: no
4:56 PM - Cake Face: >brink no idea about
4:56 PM - Rocket50: theres exclusive buy only
4:56 PM - Cake Face: wat
4:56 PM - Cake Face: there is?
4:57 PM - Rocket50: yep
4:57 PM - Rocket50: something you get for buying at steam store
4:57 PM - Rocket50: like ahat
4:57 PM - Rocket50: or something
4:57 PM - Cake Face: like a "I just bought a hat, hat"?
4:57 PM - Rocket50: that and actually store only
4:57 PM - Rocket50: few  though
4:58 PM - Cake Face: pff, there's always mods to fall back on to at least change some of the hats on your end
4:58 PM - Cake Face: but getting back to the CoD thing
4:58 PM - Cake Face: what if I'd actually like to have some shitty AK skin
4:58 PM - Cake Face: or that it would be a nice thing
4:58 PM - Cake Face: err no
4:58 PM - Cake Face: lemme think of a more real example
4:59 PM - Cake Face: fawk
4:59 PM - Cake Face: I can't really think of any games where it's actually a nice feature to have something
5:00 PM - Cake Face: that doesn't influence gameplay in the bit
5:00 PM - Cake Face: eh
5:00 PM - Cake Face: fuck it
5:00 PM - Cake Face: but yeah, I get what you're saying
5:00 PM - Cake Face: but there's not a lot of publishers that do that anymore...

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Zevante on June 06, 2012, 05:32:20 PM

Well Sony is losing money, Microsoft is going casual and Nintendo has gone casual. Only place to turn is PC gaming which is kind of a good thing and kind of a bad thing (PC gaming is booming, not dying. But new players will flood servers with noobs).
Dunno, I think eventually at the rate EA is going we'll be getting games made by machines all on one engine just using a randomizer to change variables.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Frank on June 06, 2012, 05:40:11 PM

>Microsoft is going casual
Really, Zev?

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Tiger Guy on June 06, 2012, 05:50:17 PM

Quote from: Frank on June 06, 2012, 05:40:11 PM

>Microsoft is going casual
Really, Zev?

Did you even see their E3 conference?

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Zevante on June 06, 2012, 06:15:05 PM

Quote from: Frank on June 06, 2012, 05:40:11 PM

>Microsoft is going casual
Really, Zev?

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Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Supertoaster on June 06, 2012, 06:22:14 PM

NOW INTRODUCING MICROSOFT FLIGHT SIMULATOR EXTREME HARDCORE 2013

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Seb on June 06, 2012, 09:05:46 PM

Windows 8 will play Xbox 360 games.

My life is complete.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cheesicle on June 06, 2012, 11:32:42 PM

It pisses me off how games these days are turning more into modern day movies. No plot, no character development, just huge explosions and great visuals. Also DLC's are a huge ass issue with me. Why the fuck would you make a game and not even give players full access without paying 50 bucks extra? Sure, if it's an expansion pack it's okay, because expansion packs offer a lot. But what I'm referring to is the shitty CoD packs that give players like what. 3 maps? It's ridiculous.

Also game companies are focusing way to hard on making money rather than making a decent game. That's why shit like CoD comes out every damn year now.. And then companies that make awesome games like Bethesda and VALVe takes ten trillion years to release a game.

Life's unfair I guess.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Seb on June 07, 2012, 06:13:00 AM

>Bethesda
>awesome

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Rocket50 on June 07, 2012, 07:47:34 AM

Quote from: Cheesicle on June 06, 2012, 11:32:42 PM

It pisses me off how games these days are turning more into modern day movies. No plot, no character development, just huge explosions and great visuals. Also DLC's are a huge ass issue with me. Why the fuck would you make a game and not even give players full access without paying 50 bucks extra? Sure, if it's an expansion pack it's okay, because expansion packs offer a lot. But what I'm referring to is the shitty CoD packs that give players like what. 3 maps? It's ridiculous.

Also game companies are focusing way to hard on making money rather than making a decent game. That's why shit like CoD comes out every damn year now.. And then companies that make awesome games like Bethesda and VALVe takes ten trillion years to release a game.

Life's unfair I guess.

Games have NEVER been about character development except for a select few games. Not now, not ever. Even the god-tier games that everyone remembers didnt have ANY character development, same goes with plot. Unless if it's an RPG, the plot will not be as focused on as the visual and gameplay. And before someone argues that Half Life 2 had a good plot, it didn't. All it had was basic framework and setting for the game to bend around it, sure there were some twists and turns, but it wasnt generally focused on plot.

And there's also the balance between story flow and exploration to consider. If you want a free roaming game, you're going to have to sacrifice plot to do so. And if plot is your essential part, you're going to have to sacrifice freedom for linearity.

However, this is not to say ALL games don't have a decent plot. So no, I don't think plot and character development have been dumbed down, but instead, they have risen more and more now.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 18, 2012, 11:06:27 AM

>1 day DLC

Your thoughts on that, Rocket50?

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: TehHank on June 19, 2012, 01:29:56 AM

>black ops on wii
>still waiting for DLC
>announced 2 years ago

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Osme on June 19, 2012, 11:32:17 AM

Quote from: TehHank on June 19, 2012, 01:29:56 AM

>black ops on wii
>still waiting for DLC
>announced 2 years ago

Thats because Nintendo is more or less dead to everyone (as far as I know.) except for small children and seniors. Snes games are still great however. Chrono Trigger man...

Quote

DLC for the most part is fair:

-The game is released with enough content to constitute a game
-The developers decide to make more for the game post-release
-They charge for it

In more than a few cases, DLCs arnt afterthoughts of the main game, they are made with the game then gruesomely cut off before released, and sold as new content. Most disgusting example that comes to mind is day 1 dlc. I refused to buy ME3, even though I love Mass Effect, simply for that :c. Atleast publishers could release it as a "deluxe" instead of trying to pass off old crap as new crap. What was that game that released the previous games maps as a dlc? MW2? Bullshit everywhere.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 19, 2012, 10:30:22 PM

Quote from: Degtyarev on June 19, 2012, 11:32:17 AM

In more than a few cases, DLCs arnt afterthoughts of the main game, they are made with the game then gruesomely cut off before released, and sold as new content. Most disgusting example that comes to mind is day 1 dlc. I refused to buy ME3, even though I love Mass Effect, simply for that :c. Atleast publishers could release it as a "deluxe" instead of trying to pass off old crap as new crap. What was that game that released the previous games maps as a dlc? MW2? Bullshit everywhere.

I honestly can't imagine a smart person buying 1 day DLC.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Frank on June 20, 2012, 01:06:04 AM

1 day DLC is not a problem,

Day 1 is. Since it's on-disc features being locked to milk suckas even more.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Samo on June 20, 2012, 05:42:36 AM

Most DLC are pieces of crap anyway. Take Battlefield 3 "Premium" for example. Or Batman: Arkham City's "Harley Quinn's Revenge" A (literally) 2 Hour play for $10. Don't get me started on the Mass Effect 2 trash they shat out every week. Costing roughly $60 for a "Complete" game.
Don't forget the Complete Editions or GOTY which are constantly released after a games 1 year mark.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Zevante on June 20, 2012, 10:24:43 AM

Quote from: Samo on June 20, 2012, 05:42:36 AM

Don't forget the Complete Editions or GOTY which are constantly released after a games 1 year mark.

I actually don't mind those. Didn't become interested in Oblivion until 2 years after release. That was far enough in that they had released a GOTY edition with all the DLC for around $10 more than the stock game. I don't see any reason to mind that.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Frank on June 20, 2012, 01:33:00 PM

Quote from: Samo on June 20, 2012, 05:42:36 AM

Most DLC are pieces of crap anyway. Take Battlefield 3 "Premium" for example. Or Batman: Arkham City's "Harley Quinn's Revenge" A (literally) 2 Hour play for $10. Don't get me started on the Mass Effect 2 trash they shat out every week. Costing roughly $60 for a "Complete" game.
Don't forget the Complete Editions or GOTY which are constantly released after a games 1 year mark.

But GTA IV Complete is beautiful and cheap.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: semy32 on June 20, 2012, 02:23:18 PM

Goty games are good for pirates.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: metalbeersolid on June 20, 2012, 02:42:17 PM

Quote from: semy32 on June 20, 2012, 02:23:18 PM

Goty games are good for pirates and people that didn't buy the game the moment it came out.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Loke on June 20, 2012, 02:51:30 PM

Quote from: Seb on June 06, 2012, 09:05:46 PM

Windows 8 will play Xbox 360 games.

My life is complete.

FUCK THE CONSOLES! WE GOT A PC THAT PLAYS CONSOLE GAMES!

No derailing, just wanted to say that.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Foofoojack on June 20, 2012, 03:02:11 PM

Quote from: Loke on June 20, 2012, 02:51:30 PM

FUCK THE CONSOLES! WE GOT A PC THAT PLAYS CONSOLE GAMES!

Please re-read the thread title and then make the appropriate changes to your post.
Thanks.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Osme on June 20, 2012, 03:08:21 PM

Quote from: Foofoojack on June 20, 2012, 03:02:11 PM

Please re-read the thread title and then make the appropriate changes to your post.
Thanks.

Thats the most intelligent comment you can make about consoles. They are bricks that concentrate the stupidity of the user.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 20, 2012, 03:16:28 PM

Quote from: Degtyarev on June 20, 2012, 03:08:21 PM

They are bricks that concentrate the stupidity of the user.

Recently they are, mostly ever since the retarded as all hell XBL Experience shit a few years ago that made the xbox seem like a family friendly/casual game console.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Lavenchie on June 20, 2012, 05:27:18 PM

I honestly don't see why they have to make consoles in the first place, Why not just stop focusing on what plays your games and more on releasing more games. I'd just prefer if they released all the games on a single console so that way I don't have to spend all my money buying a PS3 or an Xbox just to find out a really sweet game is coming out on the other one.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Foofoojack on June 20, 2012, 05:59:08 PM

Quote from: Lavenchie on June 20, 2012, 05:27:18 PM

I honestly don't see why they have to make consoles in the first place, Why not just stop focusing on what plays your games and more on releasing more games. I'd just prefer if they released all the games on a single console so that way I don't have to spend all my money buying a PS3 or an Xbox just to find out a really sweet game is coming out on the other one.

Consoles and PC's/Macs were made to COMPETE with each other.

The "PC master race" shit really pisses me off, seeing as though most people that claim "PC over all!" have never tried a console, and don't have the will to do so.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 20, 2012, 06:02:27 PM

Quote from: Lavenchie on June 20, 2012, 05:27:18 PM

I honestly don't see why they have to make consoles in the first place,

Well, before PC gaming came into play, there were gaming consoles. Like the Atari 2600 and crap, and through out the 80's when gaming on computers like the commodore 64 became popular, people chose consoles because of convince. You had to launch a whole bunch of parameter shit with the commodore which made it a pain in the ass, rather than shoving a cartridge into your NES and playing straight from there. With today's gaming stuff, people chose consoles because of:

A. The games that are console only
B. Not having to spend $1000 on a 1337 gaming computer
C. Not having to worry about driver issues, incompatibilities, not very good graphical settings ect.
D. Using ass-tons of space on older computers
E. Waiting for install times

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Rocket50 on June 20, 2012, 06:13:55 PM

Quote from: Lavenchie on June 20, 2012, 05:27:18 PM

I honestly don't see why they have to make consoles in the first place, Why not just stop focusing on what plays your games and more on releasing more games. I'd just prefer if they released all the games on a single console so that way I don't have to spend all my money buying a PS3 or an Xbox just to find out a really sweet game is coming out on the other one.

Everyone wants a piece of the console market, why? Because it's bigger than the PC.

The reason why people buy consoles is because it is A: Convenient and B: Cheaper. It's convenient because you dont have to fiddle around with drivers and settings and it’s cheaper because you don’t have to upgrade to the latest hardware to play x y, or z when seven, seven, year old technology that is the xbox360 can play 2012 games that you would never even hope to launch on an equally outdated PC.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Osme on June 21, 2012, 12:20:57 AM

Quote from: Rocket50 on June 20, 2012, 06:13:55 PM

Everyone wants a piece of the console market, why? Because it's bigger than the PC.

The reason why people buy consoles is because it is A: Convenient and B: Cheaper. It's convenient because you dont have to fiddle around with drivers and settings and it’s cheaper because you don’t have to upgrade to the latest hardware to play x y, or z when seven, seven, year old technology that is the xbox360 can play 2012 games that you would never even hope to launch on an equally outdated PC.

Still, it would be nice for a major PC only release once an awhile, instead of games that were limited by the console being ported over. Seems like post PC only releases are indie games, which is fine, I enjoy them, but regardless...

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Rocket50 on June 21, 2012, 11:43:17 AM

(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/9/3/7/7/9/ERTS_NASDAQ_2.jpg.jpg)

*sniff sniff*

It's beautiful...

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on June 21, 2012, 12:12:37 PM

Quote from: Rocket50 on June 21, 2012, 11:43:17 AM

(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/9/3/7/7/9/ERTS_NASDAQ_2.jpg.jpg)

*sniff sniff*

It's beautiful...

I should put that in a frame on my wall.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Supertoaster on June 21, 2012, 01:27:28 PM

Does Valve have a stock?

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Osme on June 21, 2012, 02:20:11 PM

Quote from: Rocket50 on June 21, 2012, 11:43:17 AM

(http://images.eurogamer.net/2012/articles//a/1/4/9/3/7/7/9/ERTS_NASDAQ_2.jpg.jpg)

*sniff sniff*

It's beautiful...

I think I might do that. Best story Ive heard in a very long time, simply within that picture.
Now if they are gone by the time Im old, I can die in peace.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Cake Faice on May 28, 2013, 07:23:06 PM

Psst, Cake Face from almost a year ago...it's happening.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Tiger Guy on May 28, 2013, 07:46:54 PM

Quote from: Supertoaster on June 21, 2012, 01:27:28 PM

Does Valve have a stock?

No, because Valve is a private company.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: HideoKojima on May 28, 2013, 08:37:26 PM

Quote from: Tiger Guy on May 28, 2013, 07:46:54 PM

No, because Valve is a private company.

Pretty sure all companies have stock but some are private and only family/employees can get it.

Title: Re: Intelligent Discussion: Current Gen Gaming
Post by: Monorail Cat on May 29, 2013, 04:36:25 PM

And then Half Life 3 is released, and there is never a DLC that you need to purchase to obtain, and all other companies die.  The end.