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Title: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 01, 2012, 10:01:51 PM
Minic said all standard rules are being applied in Temp server, but why there's still random demotion and random promotion?
Some players randomly lost their reg (I am pretty sure it's not glitch) and some "new" players got their Reg.
Isn't the rules still being applied? Even a demotion or promotion needs a prefect reason before applying.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 01, 2012, 10:25:43 PM
Minic said all standard rules are being applied in Temp server, but why there's still random demotion and random promotion?
Some players randomly lost their reg (I am pretty sure it's not glitch) and some "new" players got their Reg.
Isn't the rules still being applied? Even a demotion or promotion needs a prefect reason before applying.
wat...
If you mean this shit needs to be logged and everyone needs to be away (publicly) then no lol.
The rules still obviously apply... and there are no demotions and promotions that I know of... Maybe it would help if you gave specific people...
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 01, 2012, 10:37:41 PM
wat...
If you mean this shit needs to be logged and everyone needs to be away (publicly) then no lol.
The rules still obviously apply... and there are no demotions and promotions that I know of... Maybe it would help if you gave specific people...

keeladawg lost his reg (for no reason)
kimchi got his reg   (without public announcement)
I lost my reg   (for no reason)
Sora50 cannot be promoted
Chrysalis (Demoted in temp for being immature) Dafuk! Every player can be slightly immature but Chrysalis is pretty good just his voice...
...
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Foofoojack on June 01, 2012, 11:01:24 PM
I'm not sure about the ones stated above, but

InsaneSaint

why, oh god why was he given reg.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 01, 2012, 11:13:20 PM
I'm not sure about the ones stated above, but

InsaneSaint

why, oh god why was he given reg.

Oh ya, I missed him out.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: ursus on June 01, 2012, 11:26:29 PM
I'm not sure about the ones stated above, but

InsaneSaint

why, oh god why was he given reg.

wait, someone gave him reg?

the fuck?

no. fuck no.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: This Toast on June 01, 2012, 11:36:01 PM
I'm not sure about the ones stated above, but

InsaneSaint

why, oh god why was he given reg.

Yeah I can't believe it either when he said he got his Reg.

Right now I saw his karma is low and Tezuni kept an eye on him and it was a possible karma farm.

Additional edit(regarding someone else):
How come he can say that to someone who has higher authority than him?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 02, 2012, 12:41:29 AM
Yeah I can't believe it either when he said he got his Reg.

Right now I saw his karma is low and Tezuni kept an eye on him and it was a possible karma farm.

Additional edit:
How come he can say that to someone who has higher authority than him?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's 83% true. Only for some particular VIP. Like ursus, he mass rdm and leaves, he deserves his VIP? If you want proof, I can give it to you.
And for Insane, he said he got promoted infront of 3 VIPs and 3 Admins. I wonder who promoted him.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Pryvisee on June 02, 2012, 12:58:26 AM
These are temp promotions and demotions on temp server hosted temporarily.

Since the promotions on the forums are frozen, I think having an admins say whether or not a person should be promoted/demoted is good enough.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: This Toast on June 02, 2012, 01:08:45 AM
Someone wanted to ghost.................................
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2zdno5s.jpg)
(Redrum is a Reg.)
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 02, 2012, 01:13:36 AM
Someone wanted to ghost.................................
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2zdno5s.jpg)
(Redrum is a Reg.)

Just wonder, isn't ghosting like:
Le Kid: Hey, guess what? I am T, with XXX and ZZZ.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 02, 2012, 01:21:03 AM
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053806876/screenshot/578956687647509208/?tab=public (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053806876/screenshot/578956687647509208/?tab=public)
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053806876/screenshot/578956687647510262/?tab=public (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053806876/screenshot/578956687647510262/?tab=public)
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053806876/screenshot/578956687647512789/?tab=public (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053806876/screenshot/578956687647512789/?tab=public)
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053806876/screenshot/578956687647505951/?tab=public (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053806876/screenshot/578956687647505951/?tab=public)

Target and repeat RDM.
This is how a VIP like ursus been doing.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Pryvisee on June 02, 2012, 01:24:25 AM
Wait..? How did this turn into a report thread? Just kinda curious.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 02, 2012, 01:30:47 AM
Wait..? How did this turn into a report thread? Just kinda curious.

No. I am just giving example like how ursus done his job like above.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Pryvisee on June 02, 2012, 01:32:36 AM
No. I am just giving example like how ursus done his job like above.

Oh I see. You can always modify your one post though. No need for double posting. ;)
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Deacon on June 02, 2012, 01:33:17 AM
real reports need to be handled in their own threads
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 02, 2012, 01:35:47 AM
real reports need to be handled in their own threads

That's why I am saying this is not a report thread.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: ursus on June 02, 2012, 08:51:31 AM
No. I am just giving example like how ursus done his job like above.

you didn't include the part where I actually moderate the servers and they all RDMed themselves to 10 karma
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: ○ Μαρία ○ on June 02, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
That's why I am saying this is not a report thread.
Well, then don't treat it like one. You're complaining about promotions and demotions in the discussion board.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 02, 2012, 11:17:53 AM
keeladawg lost his reg (for no reason)
kimchi got his reg   (without public announcement)
I lost my reg   (for no reason)
Sora50 cannot be promoted
Chrysalis (Demoted in temp for being immature) Dafuk! Every player can be slightly immature but Chrysalis is pretty good just his voice...
...
Keela was promoted by me a long time ago, and demoted by Jman I think. He didn't really give a good reason but w.e.
kimchi idk
you idk, probably cause of your attitude
sora... okay? thats a glitch
chrys idk

I promoted Insane a while ago... what's the problem with that?
He doesn't break rules or anything of that sort, he's just annoying to some people. Oh well.
He's actually helped me a decent bit to ban rule breakers. He's not a bad guy.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Foofoojack on June 02, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
I promoted Insane a while ago... what's the problem with that?
He doesn't break rules or anything of that sort, he's just annoying to some people. Oh well.
He's actually helped me a decent bit to ban rule breakers. He's not a bad guy.

Not many people know, but InsantSaint = FPS Russia, RV Spy, Yakuza, etc.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Ἆxule on June 02, 2012, 03:02:04 PM
Not many people know, but InsantSaint = FPS Russia, RV Spy, Yakuza, etc.

dat laugh

I promoted Insane a while ago... what's the problem with that?
He doesn't break rules or anything of that sort, he's just annoying to some people. Oh well.
He's actually helped me a decent bit to ban rule breakers. He's not a bad guy.

Not generally, but he does have his moments where he will cause others to lose karma. For example, one round in on clue, I unloaded a clip into the wall because I was bored. Later on through the round, Insane calls me out after I give my weapon, but doesn't do anything. Instead, he lets the Detective shoot me and kill me. Afterwards, he says he knew I was innocent, just wanted to have some fun.

I'm still a little edgy on the fact he was promoted, but eh
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Foofoojack on June 02, 2012, 03:05:05 PM
dat laugh

oh god, it has the power to kill multiple kittens instantly
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Samo on June 02, 2012, 05:08:36 PM
Insane sits back, calls people out without even having an attempt to shoot them and lets other loose karma if he's wrong. He will only shoot if he's 100% sure. I have to tell people not to shoot at times but they just don't listen.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 02, 2012, 05:22:24 PM
Tbh I've never heard all this stuff before. I know a lot of people didn't like him but didn't know why.
And yea, I knew he was FPS Russian and all that. Didn't know he was Yakuza though, actually. But I haven't actually ever seen him doing any of that stuff, and has actually been helping me a decent amount for a long time. I may talk to him about all the stuff you guys are talking about just to let him know that it won't be accepted. If I do see him doing any of that stuff I would for sure demote him but... idk maybe he's careful with that when I'm around? Or I just haven't noticed. Either way it will be noted.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: This Cactus on June 02, 2012, 07:08:41 PM
That's the reason he doesn't do it infront of admins, he doesn't wanna get demoted. He acts like he can be helpful but afterwards he then trolls other Regs and Guests but when infront of VIPs and admins, no.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 02, 2012, 07:42:26 PM
That's the reason he doesn't do it infront of admins, he doesn't wanna get demoted. He acts like he can be helpful but afterwards he then trolls other Regs and Guests but when infront of VIPs and admins, no.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: ursus on June 02, 2012, 08:37:59 PM
He tried to suck major dick when he was around me. Stuff like "ursus add me you sexy sexy man we can have fun time together."

It pisses me off.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Shockah on June 02, 2012, 10:43:15 PM
He tried to suck major dick when he was around me. Stuff like "ursus add me you sexy sexy man we can have fun time together."

It pisses me off.

tl;dr: If I never had to play another round of TTT with "Insane" again it would be way too goddamn soon.

When I first heard of his promotion I was 2 seconds away from making a thread like this pertaining to him and others. After thinking logically what grounds did I have? My word? I can not stress enough how much I would like him gone from our community forever. He CONSTANTLY bends the rules in whatever way he can to put a damper upon other player experiences for "fun" all the while attempting to kiss his ass up the friends list with VIP/Admin favorite people charts (obviously it worked for some). Speaking of which I talked to him the other day about it asking him to please stop originally he agreed then later stated he would still karma bait occasionally to see how easily he could manipulate people to do his bidding because it's "fun". Does this sound like reg material to any of you? Does this sound like something a guest should be allowed to get away with? ABSOLUTELY NOT. He is in no way deserving of a promotion however I can't think of anyone at the moment more deserving of a PERMANENT, MINGE ENDING, GO FIND ANOTHER SERVER, BAN. Not only do I dislike him as a player, but as a person his character is less than satisfactory he thinks he can just do whatever he wants, that he's better than EVERYONE, and that so long as he kisses the right peoples ass he's invincible. I can not tell you the amount of times he's made snide, sarcastic, and downright rude insults to myself and others all the while boosting his own ego about how he "shit on us" and how "fucking beast" he is. I don't even see a way of putting any form of professionalism or respect into this post he doesn't deserve it in the slightest.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Tezuni on June 02, 2012, 11:00:31 PM
tl;dr: If I never had to play another round of TTT with "Insane" again it would be way too goddamn soon.

When I first heard of his promotion I was 2 seconds away from making a thread like this pertaining to him and others. After thinking logically what grounds did I have? My word? I can not stress enough how much I would like him gone from our community forever. He CONSTANTLY bends the rules in whatever way he can to put a damper upon other player experiences for "fun" all the while attempting to kiss his ass up the friends list with VIP/Admin favorite people charts (obviously it worked for some). Speaking of which I talked to him the other day about it asking him to please stop originally he agreed then later stated he would still karma bait occasionally to see how easily he could manipulate people to do his bidding because it's "fun". Does this sound like reg material to any of you? Does this sound like something a guest should be allowed to get away with? ABSOLUTELY NOT. He is in no way deserving of a promotion however I can't think of anyone at the moment more deserving of a PERMANENT, MINGE ENDING, GO FIND ANOTHER SERVER, BAN. Not only do I dislike him as a player, but as a person his character is less than satisfactory he thinks he can just do whatever he wants, that he's better than EVERYONE, and that so long as he kisses the right peoples ass he's invincible. I can not tell you the amount of times he's made snide, sarcastic, and downright rude insults to myself and others all the while boosting his own ego about how he "shit on us" and how "fucking beast" he is. I don't even see a way of putting any form of professionalism or respect into this post he doesn't deserve it in the slightest.

Exactly, this guy makes TTT stressful to play.  I once did a report on him about ghosting that encompassed several maps over many hours, along with other smaller reports.  He just keeps coming back.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: This Cactus on June 03, 2012, 03:06:54 AM
Exactly, this guy makes TTT stressful to play.  I once did a report on him about ghosting that encompassed several maps over many hours, along with other smaller reports.  He just keeps coming back.
tl;dr: If I never had to play another round of TTT with "Insane" again it would be way too goddamn soon.

When I first heard of his promotion I was 2 seconds away from making a thread like this pertaining to him and others. After thinking logically what grounds did I have? My word? I can not stress enough how much I would like him gone from our community forever. He CONSTANTLY bends the rules in whatever way he can to put a damper upon other player experiences for "fun" all the while attempting to kiss his ass up the friends list with VIP/Admin favorite people charts (obviously it worked for some). Speaking of which I talked to him the other day about it asking him to please stop originally he agreed then later stated he would still karma bait occasionally to see how easily he could manipulate people to do his bidding because it's "fun". Does this sound like reg material to any of you? Does this sound like something a guest should be allowed to get away with? ABSOLUTELY NOT. He is in no way deserving of a promotion however I can't think of anyone at the moment more deserving of a PERMANENT, MINGE ENDING, GO FIND ANOTHER SERVER, BAN. Not only do I dislike him as a player, but as a person his character is less than satisfactory he thinks he can just do whatever he wants, that he's better than EVERYONE, and that so long as he kisses the right peoples ass he's invincible. I can not tell you the amount of times he's made snide, sarcastic, and downright rude insults to myself and others all the while boosting his own ego about how he "shit on us" and how "fucking beast" he is. I don't even see a way of putting any form of professionalism or respect into this post he doesn't deserve it in the slightest.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Samo on June 03, 2012, 04:17:47 AM
Stressful? I think he makes the game more interesting. It's nice to have someone to talk to via voice chat. He gives the game more challenge, despite the wrong call-outs that he does every now and then.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Shockah on June 03, 2012, 04:32:47 AM
Stressful? I think he makes the game more interesting. It's nice to have someone to talk to via voice chat. He gives the game more challenge, despite the wrong call-outs that he does every now and then.

Unless you have the same state of mind as him which is "Causing other people stress, pain, and hardship sure is fun" I can't possibly see how he could make the game more interesting. He gives the game more challenge, by doing what? Lowering everyones karma to the point in which they can't kill each other because I can see how that presents a challenge. He specifically told me he purposely makes random call outs on bull shit reasons to see how he can "manipulate people". He as an individual makes the game stressful, his constant mic spam, false call-outs, generally obnoxious nature, questionable T kills, bending the rules to his whim literally makes playing the game a chore compared to a fun activity/hobby.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on June 03, 2012, 09:40:00 AM
Hey Shockah I have a plan.

Message me on steam when you are on.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: ·UηİŦ·· on June 03, 2012, 03:03:15 PM
Quote
stuff

I now look at Insane in another light given the stuff said in this thread.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 03, 2012, 03:04:19 PM
My god don't do any more of your stupid "plans" to get other players in trouble. It's juvenile.
Now, I understand that you all have a lot of hate towards him, and I talked to him about this and asked him not to so we'll just have to see how it goes. I still haven't seen him do any of those things, and NO one has brought any sort of proof. Bringing proof would help a lot. In the mean time, ignore him, leave him alone, and simply ignore the stupid things in-game, unless you're trying to collect proof on his behaviour.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: This Cactus on June 03, 2012, 03:47:25 PM
My god don't do any more of your stupid "plans" to get other players in trouble. It's juvenile.
Now, I understand that you all have a lot of hate towards him, and I talked to him about this and asked him not to so we'll just have to see how it goes. I still haven't seen him do any of those things, and NO one has brought any sort of proof. Bringing proof would help a lot. In the mean time, ignore him, leave him alone, and simply ignore the stupid things in-game, unless you're trying to collect proof on his behaviour.

You aren't since I already said he doesn't do it infront of VIPs and admins since he wants to keep his rank without being caught of trolling, minge, etc.

We can't hes dragging all attention but we can try harder. Some of us are.

.:He also is offending other Regulars in some sort in times he is threatened by his demotion then he says he isnt scared of any other people unless theres a VIP or admin to ban and demote him:.

Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on June 03, 2012, 03:50:14 PM
My god don't do any more of your stupid "plans" to get other players in trouble. It's juvenile.
Now, I understand that you all have a lot of hate towards him, and I talked to him about this and asked him not to so we'll just have to see how it goes. I still haven't seen him do any of those things, and NO one has brought any sort of proof. Bringing proof would help a lot. In the mean time, ignore him, leave him alone, and simply ignore the stupid things in-game, unless you're trying to collect proof on his behaviour.

Another plan.....wat.

All i was gonna say was try to get evidence of him...
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Shockah on June 03, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
My god don't do any more of your stupid "plans" to get other players in trouble. It's juvenile.
Now, I understand that you all have a lot of hate towards him, and I talked to him about this and asked him not to so we'll just have to see how it goes. I still haven't seen him do any of those things, and NO one has brought any sort of proof. Bringing proof would help a lot. In the mean time, ignore him, leave him alone, and simply ignore the stupid things in-game, unless you're trying to collect proof on his behaviour.

Proof of him having no knowledge of the rules, Juan was called in by him about 2 months ago to deal with ME because I knifed Insane every T round I got, Insane responded by making personal insults on my character and being generally a dick as well as knifing me right back, when was the last time knifing someone was against the rules? When was the last time the way you deal with a rule breaker was cursing them out? What about his character? I think this should suffice http://pastebin.com/QrxvVbAa (http://pastebin.com/QrxvVbAa) his desire for power and sheer stupidity is shown in that chat as well as his inability to realize this isn't a mob organization it's a gaming community. All tiger wanted was for him to take the survey and somehow Insane twisted it to some sort of mastermind scheme for power in which he wanted to be involved. Even saying he's heard rumors of you Sabb the one who defends him being "corrupt", from who Excalipoor? As for his karma baiting, to my former knowledge what he was doing with calling out for bullshit reasons wasn't officially against the rules so I have no proof of that. But if you can't accept the testimony of multiple members than I'll have to work on gathering proof not that it's going to do much good after he catches wind of this post.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Tiger Guy on June 03, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
Proof of him having no knowledge of the rules, Juan was called in by him about 2 months ago to deal with ME because I knifed Insane every T round I got, Insane responded by making personal insults on my character and being generally a dick as well as knifing me right back, when was the last time knifing someone was against the rules? When was the last time the way you deal with a rule breaker was cursing them out? What about his character? I think this should suffice http://pastebin.com/QrxvVbAa (http://pastebin.com/QrxvVbAa) his desire for power and sheer stupidity is shown in that chat as well as his inability to realize this isn't a mob organization it's a gaming community. All tiger wanted was for him to take the survey and somehow Insane twisted it to some sort of mastermind scheme for power in which he wanted to be involved. Even saying he's heard rumors of you Sabb the one who defends him being "corrupt", from who Excalipoor? As for his karma baiting, to my former knowledge what he was doing with calling out for bullshit reasons wasn't officially against the rules so I have no proof of that. But if you can't accept the testimony of multiple members than I'll have to work on gathering proof not that it's going to do much good after he catches wind of this post.
Also, don't take any thing I say in there seriously. I was going along with it until I figured out that he was actually serious about it.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Tezuni on June 03, 2012, 08:17:47 PM
Sabb,

He is F.P.S. Russian among 50 other names, with a new one each week. 

He was been caught doing a lot of shit and banned multiple times.

It's been happening for a long time and watching him won't yield anything surprising, he has an ongoing history....  you know he is F.P.S. Russian right?

The name makes a lot of people shudder. lol.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Foofoojack on June 03, 2012, 08:32:02 PM
Sabb,

He is F.P.S. Russian among 50 other names, with a new one each week. 

He was been caught doing a lot of shit and banned multiple times.

It's been happening for a long time and watching him won't yield anything surprising, he has an ongoing history....  you know he is F.P.S. Russian right?

The name makes a lot of people shudder. lol.

pretty much this

If when you promoted him you saw something good in him, I can understand that much, but I believe there are other people that deserve the rank far more than Insane does.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Jman on June 03, 2012, 08:33:18 PM
Also, don't take any thing I say in there seriously. I was going along with it until I figured out that he was actually serious about it.

God damnit that conversation is idiotic beyond belief. You are going so far out of your way to try to incriminate me, but you're doing a god-awful job. I am serious and completely  honest when I say I have not, am not, and will not do anything wrong. Unless you get proof of my non-existent abuse, it will simply be just that - nonexistent.

It should really be clear to everyone that all of this is because of a stupid ass personal bias that holds no real backing. That's great - you and a few others dislike me. Unless I really do something wrong, I dont care what you think.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Samo on June 04, 2012, 05:12:28 AM
Please Rename this thread. I don't know what kind of satanic dealerships some of you may or may not have going on, but it needs to be settled.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Prox on June 04, 2012, 05:18:19 AM
It should really be clear to everyone that all of this is because of a stupid ass personal bias that holds no real backing. That's great - you and a few others dislike me. Unless I really do something wrong, I dont care what you think.
You seem to be forgetting that you started abusing before others started insulting you. Even though you got better don't act like you're completely innocent.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 04, 2012, 05:50:52 AM
Even saying he's heard rumors of you Sabb the one who defends him being "corrupt", from who Excalipoor?

Wait WHAT?
I don't get this..
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Shockah on June 04, 2012, 06:11:18 AM
Wait WHAT?
I don't get this..

It was or was meant to be a witty sarcastic comment, if you don't get it no need to fret.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Jman on June 04, 2012, 06:20:36 AM
You seem to be forgetting that you started abusing before others started insulting you. Even though you got better don't act like you're completely innocent.

Did I say I was completely innocent? No. I completely acknowledged what I did in the past. What I'm saying is that it's utterly moronic to wallow over issues that have already been solved. It would be one thing if I didn't change from the past and continued to do things admins shouldn't do. However, the fact of the matter is that I did change and have not done anything admins shouldn't do. I've done my best to help and will continue to try to help. The community's support would just be an added bonus that will not affect my admin performance.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 04, 2012, 09:31:47 AM
Lol you guys. I've said very clearly that I KNOW HE'S FPS RUSSIAN.
I've had him added for a long time, I think WHILE he was FPS Russian, and he's been helping me since.
I know about that chat. It's not enough.
If he's as bad as you all say he is, it should be no problem to collect proof on him. So again, it's as simple as that, and lets leave it at that. Get proof, or ignore him.

EDIT:
Also...
pretty much this

If when you promoted him you saw something good in him, I can understand that much, but I believe there are other people that deserve the rank far more than Insane does.
This is Reg we're talking about lol. Not admin. Not even VIP. Reg. There's very little harm that can be done with having him Reg. At most, just causing kicks to be a little more difficult. Which also should be easy to collect proof on.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: ๖Ϝцzsioᴎ on June 04, 2012, 11:13:41 AM
keeladawg lost his reg (for no reason)
kimchi got his reg   (without public announcement)
I lost my reg   (for no reason)
Sora50 cannot be promoted
Chrysalis (Demoted in temp for being immature) Dafuk! Every player can be slightly immature but Chrysalis is pretty good just his voice...
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I MUST admit I as being immature, and I can understand why Hotgreen demoted me after he cleared this up, but this is turning into a report, this is uncalled for.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Pryvisee on June 04, 2012, 12:10:44 PM
I feel like I missed a shit-ton since I was gone.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on June 04, 2012, 12:22:29 PM
Proof of him having no knowledge of the rules, Juan was called in by him about 2 months ago to deal with ME because I knifed Insane every T round I got, Insane responded by making personal insults on my character and being generally a dick as well as knifing me right back, when was the last time knifing someone was against the rules? When was the last time the way you deal with a rule breaker was cursing them out? What about his character? I think this should suffice http://pastebin.com/QrxvVbAa (http://pastebin.com/QrxvVbAa) his desire for power and sheer stupidity is shown in that chat as well as his inability to realize this isn't a mob organization it's a gaming community. All tiger wanted was for him to take the survey and somehow Insane twisted it to some sort of mastermind scheme for power in which he wanted to be involved. Even saying he's heard rumors of you Sabb the one who defends him being "corrupt", from who Excalipoor? As for his karma baiting, to my former knowledge what he was doing with calling out for bullshit reasons wasn't officially against the rules so I have no proof of that. But if you can't accept the testimony of multiple members than I'll have to work on gathering proof not that it's going to do much good after he catches wind of this post.

insane is THAT guy? I remember he called me over to try and help him because you kept knifing him every round you were T.

but i remember when you also told me that he was insulting you and thats why you were knifing him....

But like i said we need to get proof and evidence...

also

EDIT:
Also...This is Reg we're talking about lol. Not admin. Not even VIP. Reg. There's very little harm that can be done with having him Reg. At most, just causing kicks to be a little more difficult. Which also should be easy to collect proof on.

i know its for Reg. but reg is supposed to represent our community, and if we have people out insulting others, and only acting good when a Admin or VIP is around then thats bad, currently i have no proof whatsoever other then what i saw and experienced. Like i said i will try to get some evidence or something..
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 04, 2012, 12:29:56 PM
insane is THAT guy? I remember he called me over to try and help him because you kept knifing him every round you were T.

but i remember when you also told me that he was insulting you and thats why you were knifing him....

But like i said we need to get proof and evidence...

also
 
i know its for Reg. but reg is supposed to represent our community, and if we have people out insulting others, and only acting good when a Admin or VIP is around then thats bad, currently i have no proof whatsoever other then what i saw and experienced. Like i said i will try to get some evidence or something..
I do realize that Reg shows rank and basically in a small way represents the community, but people need to realize that Reg isn't admin as well. Basically like saying VIP (donator VIP) represents another community.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Shockah on June 04, 2012, 02:20:15 PM
I do realize that Reg shows rank and basically in a small way represents the community, but people need to realize that Reg isn't admin as well. Basically like saying VIP (donator VIP) represents another community.

and others need to realize that when a new player joins TTT for the first time and they see him cursing other players out, laughing hysterically after intentionally causing karma loss and changing these actions only when administration is around enabling him to still get rank, these are the traits they'll deem acceptable of which they definitely are not.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 04, 2012, 02:50:09 PM
and others need to realize that when a new player joins TTT for the first time and they see him cursing other players out, laughing hysterically after intentionally causing karma loss and changing these actions only when administration is around enabling him to still get rank, these are the traits they'll deem acceptable of which they definitely are not.
Lol... except as far as I know, you're exaggerating like fuck. You're both edging eachother on. He's not just doing it to every random person who joins.
And again, he was promoted for his usefulness.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Deacon on June 04, 2012, 02:56:26 PM
Sabb don't get offensive. shockah has a very valid point and i agree. these qualities cannot be tolerated for some and not others,  and cannot be allowed for our r egs.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Shockah on June 04, 2012, 03:06:22 PM
Lol... except as far as I know, you're exaggerating like fuck. You're both edging eachother on. He's not just doing it to every random person who joins.
And again, he was promoted for his usefulness.

Ah I'm exaggerating like fuck and edging him on? So I suppose Tezuni, Juan, This Cactus, Foofoo, Ursus, Axule, This Toast, Deacon, and Redrum are also edging him on? Listen to yourself the only support he's received is from you and Samo compared to 7-8 reputable members as well as a few others. Do you really believe that all of these people edge him on and are ALL exaggerating because that's simply absurd.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 04, 2012, 03:34:03 PM
Sabb don't get offensive. shockah has a very valid point and i agree. these qualities cannot be tolerated for some and not others,  and cannot be allowed for our r egs.
I'm not getting offensive... ._.
Ah I'm exaggerating like fuck and edging him on? So I suppose Tezuni, Juan, This Cactus, Foofoo, Ursus, Axule, This Toast, Deacon, and Redrum are also edging him on? Listen to yourself the only support he's received is from you and Samo compared to 7-8 reputable members as well as a few others. Do you really believe that all of these people edge him on and are ALL exaggerating because that's simply absurd.
Lol, I'm not supporting him. I just saying that your comment seemed like quite an exaggeration. I know he's causing and issue and I'll be glad to deal with it, but I'd rather not have to deal with complains about me demoting people wrongfully with nothing to back it up. And as far as I know, yes, everyone he's DIRECTLY causing issues with has edged him on in some way. I'm not saying it's anyone's fault but his, I'm just saying that the majority of it could also have been avoided. Again, not saying that you necessarily did anything wrong. Obviously you didn't break rules or anything etc, but as far as I know he hasn't actually broken rules either.
If I'm wrong on that, that's fine. I don't need to be right, just prove me wrong. And I've also watched Insane plenty because I have heard people complaining about him but again, he's never done any of this with me on so I'm kind of stuck unless someone actually helps me.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Tezuni on June 04, 2012, 05:03:36 PM
Why should I waste my time getting evidence to get him banned again for a short time?  I already did that, multiple times.  NOT worth my time.

Big mistake arguing in this thread.  I'm out.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 04, 2012, 05:04:27 PM
Why should I waste my time getting evidence to get him banned again for a short time?  I already did that, multiple times.  NOT worth my time.

Big mistake arguing in this thread.  I'm out.
Um... no. It's to get him demoted. Not banned. Everyone's freaking out that he's Reg, not that he's not banned.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Shockah on June 04, 2012, 05:38:14 PM
Um... no. It's to get him demoted. Not banned. Everyone's freaking out that he's Reg, not that he's not banned.

Freaking out he's reg because we'd rather see him banned, I'm literally not exaggerating when I say there's no one else I'd enjoy seeing banned more than him. Until I spend my time gathering proof to get a demotion which is absolutely absurd if what we're saying is true he should be getting a perma after all of his prior offenses not to mention the fact that I think he is actually perma'd on the regular servers but I may be wrong there. That is unless of course we work on a 27 strike program?
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 04, 2012, 05:39:55 PM
Freaking out he's reg because we'd rather see him banned, I'm literally not exaggerating when I say there's no one else I'd enjoy seeing banned more than him. Until I spend my time gathering proof to get a demotion which is absolutely absurd if what we're saying is true he should be getting a perma after all of his prior offenses not to mention the fact that I think he is actually perma'd on the regular servers but I may be wrong there. That is unless of course we work on a 27 strike program?
Okay seriously calm down. I get it that you all hate him. My position IS NOT CHANGING.
Stop saying how much you hate him and w.e. I get it. Just go get proof or something I can work with.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: This Cactus on June 04, 2012, 05:40:07 PM
I'm not getting offensive... ._.Lol, I'm not supporting him. I just saying that your comment seemed like quite an exaggeration. I know he's causing and issue and I'll be glad to deal with it, but I'd rather not have to deal with complains about me demoting people wrongfully with nothing to back it up. And as far as I know, yes, everyone he's DIRECTLY causing issues with has edged him on in some way. I'm not saying it's anyone's fault but his, I'm just saying that the majority of it could also have been avoided. Again, not saying that you necessarily did anything wrong. Obviously you didn't break rules or anything etc, but as far as I know he hasn't actually broken rules either.
If I'm wrong on that, that's fine. I don't need to be right, just prove me wrong. And I've also watched Insane plenty because I have heard people complaining about him but again, he's never done any of this with me on so I'm kind of stuck unless someone actually helps me.

Like I said, hes not doing it with you/any other admins/VIPs since he wants to keep his rank with him and never caught trolling people. As it is, we sometimes tell admins about this, mostly you Sabb, but some of them believed, some did not.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Sabb on June 04, 2012, 05:42:33 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Samo on June 04, 2012, 10:51:25 PM
I love how Sabb has to repeat this stuff.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Tiger Guy on June 04, 2012, 11:13:49 PM
Sabb, when eight people are telling you that one guy is a corrupt/two-faced guy, maybe you should at least listen to them.

In my opinion, I think he's a total fucking twat.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: FrostBound on June 05, 2012, 12:43:21 AM
Are you people seriously fighting over a promotion... i dont really belive this
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Ἆxule on June 05, 2012, 12:51:34 AM
Are you people seriously fighting over a promotion... i dont really belive this

(http://www.randomgs.com/rnd_logo.png)
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Prox on June 05, 2012, 01:03:45 AM
I though you said that you don't do "if I didn't saw it, it didn't happened" stuff, but right now, you are literally doing it.
   All of those complaints against him are making me think about him getting demoted and banned as well, I doubt that all of them are lying and wasn't fps russian permanently banned on the regular servers?

  But anyways, I'd like if someone would provide his steamID so that I could track him easier, unless he has multiple steam accounts.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 05, 2012, 01:10:29 AM
he has multiple steam accounts.

I was being told about this earlier when they were reporting FPS Russian (who's currently known as Deagle King, offline for almost 20 days).
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: This Cactus on June 05, 2012, 01:31:34 AM
I though you said that you don't do "if I didn't saw it, it didn't happened" stuff, but right now, you are literally doing it.
   All of those complaints against him are making me think about him getting demoted and banned as well, I doubt that all of them are lying and wasn't fps russian permanently banned on the regular servers?

  But anyways, I'd like if someone would provide his steamID so that I could track him easier, unless he has multiple steam accounts.

No problem. If he goes online.... But if he's just gone, I'm glad he is, but if hes gone doing more steam accounts, well...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 05, 2012, 07:57:49 AM
No problem. If he goes online.... But if he's just gone, I'm glad he is, but if hes gone doing more steam accounts, well...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

He's not gone, he uses his "brother"'s account - R.V Spy(InsaneSaint) to play with us.
I noticed a lot of changes in InsaneSaint after Deagle King (La Volpe, Little Buddha, FPS Russian) was banned frm the server.
He's getting more like FPS Russian.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Ἆxule on June 05, 2012, 10:46:42 AM
He's not gone, he uses his "brother"'s account - R.V Spy(InsaneSaint) to play with us.
I noticed a lot of changes in InsaneSaint after Deagle King (La Volpe, Little Buddha, FPS Russian) was banned frm the server.
He's getting more like FPS Russian.

Don't tell me you still believe his "brother" is involved with anything ._.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 05, 2012, 07:43:51 PM
Don't tell me you still believe his "brother" is involved with anything ._.

He is.
At first when I knew both of him, they have different voice, skill, attitude, and etc.
But now, they have no difference at all. >:O
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Xrain on June 05, 2012, 09:13:57 PM
Sabb, when eight people are telling you that one guy is a corrupt/two-faced guy, maybe you should at least listen to them.

In my opinion, I think he's a total fucking twat.

Yah Sabb everyone is doing it. It's not like there has ever been a case of a majority of the people in one area being wrong or anything.  ;D
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Shockah on June 05, 2012, 09:50:54 PM
Yah Sabb everyone is doing it. It's not like there has ever been a case of a majority of the people in one area being wrong or anything.  ;D

No one's saying there hasn't been however, at least 8 reputable members agree and testify the same thing and it seems as though no mind if being payed to it whatsoever.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Xrain on June 06, 2012, 02:41:06 AM
No one's saying there hasn't been however, at least 8 reputable members agree and testify the same thing and it seems as though no mind if being payed to it whatsoever.

I am not voicing an opinion on who you are talking about, I simply am pointing out the dangers of validating an argument with how many people you have on your side. That only works if you have guns, not over the internet.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Deacon on June 06, 2012, 03:09:13 AM
I am not voicing an opinion on who you are talking about, I simply am pointing out the dangers of validating an argument with how many people you have on your side. That only works if you have guns, not over the internet.

Only true in the era of black powder rifles, sir.

Now its about accuracy.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: ๖Ϝцzsioᴎ on June 06, 2012, 08:47:41 AM
This has WAY too far, We are dealing with a Reg right? To get him demoted? Right.
Make
A
Report

We're not working with rocket science, brain surgery, or a whole game made of code. We're working with a REG and to demote him.
I suggest an Admin to lock this thread, and to move on with our lives.
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Juan_Ambriz on June 06, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
This has WAY too far, We are dealing with a Reg right? To get him demoted? Right.
Make
A
Report

We're not working with rocket science, brain surgery, or a whole game made of code. We're working with a REG and to demote him.
I suggest an Admin to lock this thread, and to move on with our lives.

Nope

Author Topic: Unfair random promotion and random demotion

It fits in with random/unfair promotions
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 06, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
This has WAY too far, We are dealing with a Reg right? To get him demoted? Right.
Make
A
Report

We're not working with rocket science, brain surgery, or a whole game made of code. We're working with a REG and to demote him.
I suggest an Admin to lock this thread, and to move on with our lives.

We are not dealing with only him and definitely not getting him demoted.

Nope

Author Topic: Unfair random promotion and random demotion

It fits in with random/unfair promotions

^
Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: Lavenchie on June 06, 2012, 07:27:35 PM
We're not working with rocket science, brain surgery, or a whole game made of code. We're working with a REG and to demote him.
I suggest an Admin to lock this thread, and to move on with our lives.
>Locking a thread for being on topic
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Title: Re: Unfair random promotion and random demotion
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on June 07, 2012, 04:59:42 AM
>Locking a thread for being on topic
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/walker66/jackie-1.jpg)

You are as funny as always! :D