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Title: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Supertoaster on April 25, 2012, 03:33:07 PM

http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/obama_cispa/%20%20?akid=1325.1535882.LKGx6n&rd=1&t=2 (http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/obama_cispa/%20%20?akid=1325.1535882.LKGx6n&rd=1&t=2)

Essentially. It allows the government/military, etc to spy on you and obliterates any privacy on the internet.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This is HUGE: President Obama just threatened to veto CISPA if it makes its way through Congress.

Please click here to urge Obama to stand strong, and to let your lawmakers know that you support Obama's veto threat:

http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/obama_cispa/?referring_akid=a5897675.1535882.KER1D6&source=auto-taf (http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/obama_cispa/?referring_akid=a5897675.1535882.KER1D6&source=auto-taf)

CISPA is up for a vote this week. It would obliterate any semblance of online privacy in the United States, giving the government -- including the military -- broad new powers to spy on Internet users.

The White House's letter expresses precisely the concerns that we've been highlighting over recent weeks -- and is a result of the public pressure against CISPA:

The White House says that any cybersecurity legislation must preserve "Americans' privacy, data confidentiality, and civil liberties and [recognize] the civilian nature of cyberspace."

It says that, "The bill also lacks sufficient limitations on the sharing of personally identifiable information between private entities and does not contain adequate oversight or accountability measures necessary to ensure that the data is used only for appropriate purposes."

And the letter goes on to assert that:

"The American people expect their Government to enhance security without undermining their privacy and civil liberties. Without clear legal protections and independent oversight, information sharing legislation will undermine the public's trust in the Government as well as in the Internet by undermining fundamental privacy, confidentiality, civil liberties, and consumer protections."

Just click here to urge Obama to stand strong and tell your lawmakers to oppose CISPA:

http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/obama_cispa/?referring_akid=a5897675.1535882.KER1D6&source=auto-taf (http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/obama_cispa/?referring_akid=a5897675.1535882.KER1D6&source=auto-taf)

Thanks!

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: yoshi on April 25, 2012, 03:52:31 PM

What the fuck is wrong with america.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Cake Faice on April 25, 2012, 04:07:46 PM

Quote from: Yoshi on April 25, 2012, 03:52:31 PM

What the fuck is wrong with america.

I don't think even god could answer that one.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Astropilot on April 25, 2012, 04:57:29 PM

ACTA, CISPA...we got a shitton more to fend off.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Tomcat on April 25, 2012, 05:57:40 PM

Its not as bad a SOPA (Writing a research paper on it) but yes it could be abused

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Devie on April 25, 2012, 06:21:52 PM

Quote from: Yoshi on April 25, 2012, 03:52:31 PM

What the fuck is wrong with america.

Ask don, he can tell you everything thats wrong with america

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Cake Faice on April 25, 2012, 06:49:34 PM

Quote from: Devie ♥ on April 25, 2012, 06:21:52 PM

Ask don, he can tell you everything thats wrong with america

and Rocket50.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Tiger Guy on April 25, 2012, 08:10:12 PM

I, for one, welcome our new internet overlords.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's just going to be over hyped by many people, and she same people are just going to celebrate like they cured cancer when it goes down.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Alkaline on April 25, 2012, 08:10:46 PM

Can't the Department of Homeland Security listen in on Skype calls?
I believe most mainstream electronics and electronic services have regulatory access, unless that's just another handful of shit CSI episodes have been teaching me.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Supertoaster on April 25, 2012, 08:18:09 PM

akin

Quote from: Alkaline on April 25, 2012, 08:10:46 PM

Can't the Department of Homeland Security listen in on Skype calls?
I believe most mainstream electronics and electronic services have regulatory access, unless that's just another handful of shit CSI episodes have been teaching me.

Maybe making the calls but I don't think they record the logs or chats

partially relevant
GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU#ws)

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: semy32 on April 25, 2012, 10:18:44 PM

This is why I'm glad that I wan't born in the USA

inb4 kids go crazy

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Foofoojack on April 25, 2012, 10:20:30 PM

Quote from: semy32(HUN) on April 25, 2012, 10:18:44 PM

This is why I'm glad that I wan't born in the USA

Same here.

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Yes, I was born in the USA if you didn't get the joke.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Supertoaster on April 25, 2012, 10:25:23 PM

-edit-


I have no idea why I posted that and I don't want to cause shit.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Samo on April 25, 2012, 10:44:45 PM

It won't pass.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Deacon on April 25, 2012, 11:46:03 PM

Quote from: Supertoaster on April 25, 2012, 10:25:23 PM

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I have no idea why I posted that and I don't want to cause shit.

so funny.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Rocket50 on April 26, 2012, 08:02:17 AM

On the 'murrica hate train,

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9259 (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9259)

Some voting machines are fixed

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Mehis on April 26, 2012, 09:19:25 AM

Lets fuck up the internet! YAY

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Rocket50 on April 26, 2012, 09:55:35 PM

Thanks america, you passed it.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml)

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Cake Faice on April 26, 2012, 10:06:10 PM

While it passed the house, it still has to pass the senate and get to the president and shit, so it's still not in affect...for now.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: semy32 on April 27, 2012, 03:03:00 AM

Well, you know... it won't be in affect ever.

Why do you think that they would publicly tell everyone about this?

It would be done in secret.

This was only publicly "released" to scare people.

Also Mr. Obama will "decline" it = his "respect" will increase.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: [TTPN] ShadowMoon on April 27, 2012, 07:42:33 AM

This thing not gonna end...
First, SOPA
Second, PIPA
Thrid, ACTA
Fourth, CISPA
Fifth, CENPA?  ???

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Seb on April 27, 2012, 09:05:06 AM

fucking merica

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Astropilot on April 27, 2012, 12:35:47 PM

Lets kick all the idiots off of our planet.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Sabb on April 27, 2012, 01:54:18 PM

Quote from: Cake Face on April 26, 2012, 10:06:10 PM

While it passed the house, it still has to pass the senate and get to the president and shit, so it's still not in affect...for now.

Idk about the structure of the American government/parliament but... correct me if I'm wrong...
You've just said that house of commons < senate < president?
Correct me if I read that wrong.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: coolzeldad on April 27, 2012, 02:04:26 PM

Quote from: Sabb on April 27, 2012, 01:54:18 PM

Idk about the structure of the American government/parliament but... correct me if I'm wrong...
You've just said that house of commons < senate < president?
Correct me if I read that wrong.

It's not "less than", it's tiers.. we call them branches where power is split between. Each one of them is a component in the success or failure of legislation. aka must be approved by each branch. Main braches are judicial (supreme court to overrule federal/state law/etc), executive (president/veto power/etc), legislated (house + senate).

So in this case the bill is still in the legislative.. must pass the second component (senate member vote).. then it will move to executive branch and the president will have power to veto or sign bill into legislation.

Someone can then appeal the legislation if passed and escalate it to the supreme court (which under normal circumstances is almost impossible.. they only take select cases that pose a real dividing line) and then the judicial branch will handle their side.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Jman on April 27, 2012, 02:04:37 PM

Quote from: Sabb on April 27, 2012, 01:54:18 PM

Idk about the structure of the American government/parliament but... correct me if I'm wrong...
You've just said that house of commons < senate < president?
Correct me if I read that wrong.

The House of Representatives and the Senate make up Congress, our legislative branch. The President makes up the executive branch. The Supreme Court makes up the judicial branch. There's no branch that is more powerful than the other, which is a key factor in our government. When bills are proposed it is first voted on in the House of Representatives, made up of representatives from each state whose size is determined based on state population. If it passes in the House of Representatives, it goes in to be voted on in the Senate, which is comprised of senators representing each state. After a bill is passed in the House of Representatives and the Senate, it goes on to the President. Our constitution gives the President the power of being able to Veto, or deny, certain bills. However, if there is a 2/3 majority in the House of Representatives and the Senate, the President's Veto is nullified.

Hope that helped make things clear lol.

EDIT: WAY TO BEAT ME BY 11 SECONDS COOLZ.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: coolzeldad on April 27, 2012, 02:05:44 PM

[offtopic] lol

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Sabb on April 27, 2012, 02:50:51 PM

Quote from: coolzeldad on April 27, 2012, 02:04:26 PM

It's not "less than", it's tiers.. we call them branches where power is split between. Each one of them is a component in the success or failure of legislation. aka must be approved by each branch. Main braches are judicial (supreme court to overrule federal/state law/etc), executive (president/veto power/etc), legislated (house + senate).

So in this case the bill is still in the legislative.. must pass the second component (senate member vote).. then it will move to executive branch and the president will have power to veto or sign bill into legislation.

Someone can then appeal the legislation if passed and escalate it to the supreme court (which under normal circumstances is almost impossible.. they only take select cases that pose a real dividing line) and then the judicial branch will handle their side.

I understand the branches and shit, it's the same in Canada but I believe here the bill goes through the house of commons first, then prime minister, then senate... maybe I'm wrong though idk.

Also, I didn't mean necessarily that the either of those things are better have more power or w.e, just that that's the order the bill gets approved through.

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Rocket50 on April 27, 2012, 06:27:14 PM

Quote from: Sabb on April 27, 2012, 02:50:51 PM

I understand the branches and shit, it's the same in Canada but I believe here the bill goes through the house of commons first, then prime minister, then senate... maybe I'm wrong though idk.

Also, I didn't mean necessarily that the either of those things are better have more power or w.e, just that that's the order the bill gets approved through.

HoC -> Senate -> PM -> Governor

Title: Re: CISPA (another Sopa)
Post by: Sabb on April 27, 2012, 09:16:34 PM

Quote from: Rocket50 on April 27, 2012, 06:27:14 PM

HoC -> Senate -> PM -> Governor

Alright... nvm then.
I thought that the senate was the complete final step here... aside from the governor general/queen.