.:`=-~rANdOm~`-=:. Game Servers
Technology (Read Only) => Computers => Topic started by: omgodzilla on January 08, 2012, 06:17:34 PM
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I've been chatting with him on steam for a while about this. Sometimes he sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about, and he makes me rage. I censored his name in the chat below.
Him: I am getting it for the PC once I get my alienware.
SuicidalKitty: alienware.
SuicidalKitty: their computers look nice
Him: Laptop.
SuicidalKitty: but imo they're overpriced
Him: Their laptops are not.
SuicidalKitty: which one are you getting?
Him: m11x, as I demand portability.
Him: :P
SuicidalKitty: it comes with a gt540m
SuicidalKitty: 1gb
Him: 2gb now.
Him: They upgraded it.
SuicidalKitty: you can pick
SuicidalKitty: on dell's site
Him: Ah.
Him: Bloody amazing performance for the size.
Him: Don't you agree?
SuicidalKitty: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+540M (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+540M)
SuicidalKitty: I have the radeon 6850
Him: Cool.
(We go on to talk about other stuff while I look for a laptop on newegg)
SuicidalKitty: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152277 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152277)
SuicidalKitty: that has the same video card as the m11x
SuicidalKitty: and it's cheaper, slimmer, and has a larger screen
Him: And not as portable.
SuicidalKitty: why?
Him: Because I actually need portability.
SuicidalKitty: the m11x is larger and heavier
Him: No, the M11x is less wide.
Him: Weight is a non-issue.
SuicidalKitty: this is slimmer
Him: Slimmer is not equal to better for transporting.
Him: I would have more trouble transporting that in a backpack than the m11x.
SuicidalKitty: it's only 3 inches wider
Him: But that does not disprove my point.
Him: I am going for the 2 gig graphics memory version.
Him: :\
SuicidalKitty: the 2gb won't improve performance unless you are planning on setting up multiple monitors or you're gonna run multiple games at once (I understand that i'm probably wrong about some of that)
Him: Exactly.
Him: I am a multitasker.
Him: As a programmer, I will have multiple game dev windows up at once.
SuicidalKitty: also the cpu is only 1.5ghz and it's dual core
Him: So?
SuicidalKitty: you're getting a cpu meant to be used with cheap laptops, and a video card meant to be used with large or multiple displays
SuicidalKitty: sorry to go all out on you
Him: I am a game dev, so I need very specific attributes, CPU not being one of them.
TL;DR: He says he wants a m11x for portability, and because it's "better for programmers". I link him a different laptop that is much cheaper, it has the same video card, and a larger screen. He said that laptop wasn't as portable.
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He's retarded.
Laptops are all the same portabilityness, jesus fuck i actually had to type that
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HURR DURR IMA GAME DEV IM USE ALIENWARE 100X BETTUR COZ 3INCHES YAAAA
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"HUR DURR, ALIENWAR IS THE FASTEST COMPUTER EVAR THEY LOOK KEWL AND SOUND FAST AND BEST PRICE EVAR"
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[insert witty comment here]
Fucking moron
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HURR DURR IMA GAME DEV IM USE ALIENWARE 100X BETTUR COZ 3INCHES YAAAA
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"HUR DURR, ALIENWAR IS THE FASTEST COMPUTER EVAR THEY LOOK KEWL AND SOUND FAST AND BEST PRICE EVAR"
These guys are spot on. With over $1000 You could put together a fucking beastly rig. How about you show your friend the page to this forum so he doesn't get a laptop with 1 hour battery life and shitty laptop parts.
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Its got cool looking air vents. therefore it's better
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>Slimmer than the computer you showed him.
Its like they make a fucking mini desktop into a laptop.
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Seriously.
If he's serious about an Alienware with a shitty processor and an absurdly powerful (for that processor) laptop for being a "game dev", kick him in the balls as hard as you can next time you see him.
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Laptops are all the same portabilityness,
Not really it depends on the weight and length of it, each laptop varies in "portabilityness" EX: How much weight you want to haul around or the size of bag you're using ect.. I have an old laptop from the 90's and that shit is heavy i wouldn't want to haul that shit with me anywhere i go so the "portabilityness" of that is none existent in my mind but the guy is still retarded for other reasons.
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Not really it depends on the weight and length of it, each laptop varies in "portabilityness" EX: How much weight you want to haul around or the size of bag you're using ect.. I have an old laptop from the 90's and that shit is heavy i wouldn't want to haul that shit with me anywhere i go so the "portabilityness" of that is none existent in my mind but the guy is still retarded for other reasons.
he says he wants the alienware because it has a smaller screen, but the MSI one which is 10x cheaper with a better CPU is only 3 inches bigger
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he says he wants the alienware because it has a smaller screen, but the MSI one which is 10x cheaper with a better CPU is only 3 inches bigger
He also says he already has a bag so that 3in can make a world of a differences if it doesn't fit in his bag then he'd have to buy a new one and that would cost atleast $50 for a decent bag, but hes still retarded for wanting alienware considering he can get the exact same thing for cheaper elsewhere. But then again since the world revolves around "style" now i understand why he would pay alot extra because they do look badass its the same reason people pay like $300 for a pair of shoes when they can get them for like $10 (Which i find those people retarded too)
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You don't even need $1000 to match an Alienware. Probably $800 at the least.
A $700-800 Tobisha Satellite Laptop would out preform the Alienware he linked. Quad Core i5, 4GB of RAM, a pretty good AMD Mobility Radeon, can play games on high, which is not bad for a laptop. Just the only thing that sucks is the battery life and how fast it drains.
now i understand why he would pay alot extra because they do look badass its the same reason people pay like $300 for a pair of shoes when they can get them for like $10 (Which i find those people retarded too)
I really cringe when people do that.
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ask captain communism, he had an alien ware, shit couldnt run team fortress
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You don't even need $1000 to match an Alienware. Probably $800 at the least.
A $700-800 Tobisha Satellite Laptop would out preform the Alienware he linked. Quad Core i5, 4GB of RAM, a pretty good AMD Mobility Radeon, can play games on high, which is not bad for a laptop. Just the only thing that sucks is the battery life and how fast it drains.
I really cringe when people do that.
he says he wants the alienware because it has a smaller screen, but the MSI one which is 10x cheaper with a better CPU is only 3 inches bigger
YOUR FRIEND SHOULD LISTEN TO THESE GUYS! Alienware are overpriced pieces of crap. Just because they "LOOK SO AWESOME" doesn't mean they perform better than anything else. Also, portability means nothing when the battery life is around 1 hour. No game dev would ever choose an Alienware laptop, they get GOOD systems. Now, would you kindly let me cyber-kick your friend in the balls...
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Alienware does have some awesome looking stuff and their custom-assembly is great for the lazy people, but it should be obvious that it's not the best stuff. You can easily find better stuff else where just as you can easily find better stuff there.
I'd say your best bet is to show him this thread, although any positive effect will be dampened by the insults... Although come on, it's not like they know who he is and it's not like he knows what he's talking about.
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Its another sad case of the "I want an alienware because it's an alienware". Same as the "I want an iPhone because its an iPhone"
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Its another sad case of the "I want an alienware because it's an alienware". Same as the "I want an iPhone because its an iPhone"
I think most people buy Alienware computers just to boast about them and brag about them, instead of using them for gaming.
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Its another sad case of the "I want an alienware because it's an alienware". Same as the "I want an iPhone because its an iPhone"
My friend has the iPhone 4S, and it's not that bad.
For starters, it has a better processor than my old computer.
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My friend has the iPhone 4S, and it's not that bad.
For starters, it has a better processor than my old computer.
But it's by Apple. They have some bullshit restrictions that you have to jailbreak to get passed.
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But it's by Apple. They have some bullshit restrictions that you have to jailbreak to get passed.
True, but I mean come on. The hardware is pretty good, plus the apps don't crash as much as on an Android. An iPhone or iPod just feels so much smoother than other products.
Their computers will always be Pablo Honey tier, though.
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True, but I mean come on. The hardware is pretty good, plus the apps don't crash as much as on an Android. An iPhone or iPod just feels so much smoother than other products.
Their computers will always be Pablo Honey tier, though.
So,
iPod = Amnesiac
iMac = Pablo Honey
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So,
iPod = OK Computer
iMac = Pablo Honey
fixed
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fixed
oh fine.
kid a works too
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"I am a game dev, so I need very specific attributes, CPU not being one of them."
That probably pissed me off the most. Why would a programmer want an alienware laptop? What makes a slow dual core cpu and a mid-range gpu good for programming? Wouldn't programmers want big, nice, mechanical keyboards that actually have number pads? I've got more coming, I'm talking to him right now about that laptop.
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If anyone wants to say something to him, i'll gladly pass it on.
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If anyone wants to say something to him, i'll gladly pass it on.
"I am a game dev, so I need very specific attributes, CPU not being one of them."
As someone that doesnt have a dick in his skull going through his ears, the **Central** processing unit... might be important.
Really. I mean fuck. If i could slap a 590 in my w95, doesnt mean it would be useful.
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"I am a game dev, so I need very specific attributes, CPU not being one of them."
As someone that doesnt have a dick in his skull going through his ears, the **Central** processing unit... might be important.
Really. I mean fuck. If i could slap a 590 in my w95, doesnt mean it would be useful.
Thanks. He's offline right now, but I'll pass on these responses tomorrow, if he's online.
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My friend has the iPhone 4S, and it's not that bad.
For starters, it has a better processor than my old computer.
My friend has one of those and it has shitty ass reception which defeats the whole purpose of having a cell phone in the first place... to make phone calls! I guess I'm old fashion but all i want my phone to do is make a dam phone call when i want it to... i don't need no Fancy phone with internet or an mp3 player... I'll just keep with my basic flip phone...
And the battery life on those things sucks balls because of all the shit in there you're lucky if you don't have to charge it every night... Whereas all my phone does is make calls and text and my battery lasts a good week.
But then again i grew up in the generation where we all wanted Pagers and we didn't have these fancy phones... So thats probably why i never cared for them... Hmm maybe I should go dig out my old pager and see if i can bring those back into style LMAO
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My friend has one of those and it has shitty ass reception which defeats the whole purpose of having a cell phone in the first place... to make phone calls! I guess I'm old fashion but all i want my phone to do is make a dam phone call when i want it to... i don't need no Fancy phone with internet or an mp3 player... I'll just keep with my basic flip phone...
And the battery life on those things sucks balls because of all the shit in there you're lucky if you don't have to charge it every night... Whereas all my phone does is make calls and text and my battery lasts a good week.
But then again i grew up in the generation where we all wanted Pagers and we didn't have these fancy phones... So thats probably why i never cared for them... Hmm maybe I should go dig out my old pager and see if i can bring those back into style LMAO
I have an iPod and some $60 Android, but the android has very poor music quality compared to the iPods, i'm assuming the iPhone is the same quality as the iPod. But I love to listen to Pandora comedians on my phone. But then I start laughing and people think i'm weird
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My friend has one of those and it has shitty ass reception which defeats the whole purpose of having a cell phone in the first place... to make phone calls! I guess I'm old fashion but all i want my phone to do is make a dam phone call when i want it to... i don't need no Fancy phone with internet or an mp3 player... I'll just keep with my basic flip phone...
And the battery life on those things sucks balls because of all the shit in there you're lucky if you don't have to charge it every night... Whereas all my phone does is make calls and text and my battery lasts a good week.
But then again i grew up in the generation where we all wanted Pagers and we didn't have these fancy phones... So thats probably why i never cared for them... Hmm maybe I should go dig out my old pager and see if i can bring those back into style LMAO
You know, signal reception can many times be an issue of the company.
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You know, signal reception can many times be an issue of the company.
Yes, but i know other people with the same company and they don't have as much reception problems as my friend with the iphone...
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Yes, but i know other people with the same company and they don't have as much reception problems as my friend with the iphone...
does he have the problem where you hold it in a certain position and it blocks the antennae?
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does he have the problem where you hold it in a certain position and it blocks the antennae?
I'm not sure, i just hear her bitching about not having reception alot...
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I'm not sure, i just hear her bitching about not having reception alot...
Really? My friend has really good reception.
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Hey guys, I just had a really long conversation with the guy about the Alienware m11x. I went through and censored his name again. Also, several times in this conversation we mention a 14" laptop on newegg that I linked him: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152298 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152298)
SuicidalKitty: so
SuicidalKitty: I'm talking about our whole m11x argument
SuicidalKitty: on a forum
SuicidalKitty: and someone wanted me to pass this message on
SuicidalKitty: ""I am a game dev, so I need very specific attributes, CPU not being one of them."
As someone that doesnt have a dick in his skull going through his ears, the **Central** processing unit... might be important.
Really. I mean fuck. If i could slap a 590 in my w95, doesnt mean it would be useful"
Him: You arleady said this.
SuicidalKitty: yeah, but you didn't have time for it
Him: Because you are, at this point, out of knowledge, and need to go to other people in order to convice me.
Him: Which I dissapprove of.
SuicidalKitty: You're out of knowledge as well, which is why you're trying to avoid answering this
Him: No, I just already went other this with you.
Him: The specific tasks I perform either require RAM or GPU, but are not (normally) too largely influenced by the CPU.
SuicidalKitty: I thought you wanted to game on your new laptop?
SuicidalKitty: CPU is pretty important for gaming
Him: If I do, it will be rare.
Him: Mainly for modelling and programming.
SuicidalKitty: If you're only going to game rarely, what's the point of getting an incredibly overpriced and bulky laptop?
Him: It ain't bulky.
Him: 4 pounds is not bulky.
SuicidalKitty: 6 pounds
Him: No.
Him: 4.
SuicidalKitty: that's still a lot for a laptop
SuicidalKitty: and the width
Him: And 11 inches greatly reduces bulk.
Him: I know you are a Knight Templar, but you have to let it go.
SuicidalKitty: if you bought a 14" laptop for $300 less, with better hardware, you could buy a new bag with the savings.
Him: I don't buy bags, though.
Him: Because I do not need too.
SuicidalKitty: why?
Him: And said laptop would not fit my size requirements.
Him: Because I have a backpack for that reason.
Him: Either that or I will just carry it.
SuicidalKitty: I'm sure a 14" laptop would fit your bag
Him: This backpack contains more than a bag.
Him: laptop*
Him: It also contains my collection of programming books.
Him: A sketchbook,
Him: and whatever else I feel like putting in there.
SuicidalKitty: Why do you need to keep all your programming books in your backpack if you already know all the programming languages?
Him: References.
SuicidalKitty: couldn't you just go online?
Him: Not at all times.
Him: Dur.
Him: And 'online' will never match the quality of a book I payed for.
SuicidalKitty: but, do you need all your books all the time, and do you have to program all the time, 24/7?
Him: Yes.
Him: To both.
SuicidalKitty: how often do you travel?
Him: Normally I travel somewhere where I need my laptop at least three times a week, normal around 10.
SuicidalKitty: how big is your current laptop?
Him: Dunno. Never had it measured.
Him: Nor asked.
SuicidalKitty: and you can fit that in your bag?
Him: I don't.
Him: I carry it.
SuicidalKitty: why not carry a 14" laptop?
SuicidalKitty: it's cheaper
SuicidalKitty: lighter
SuicidalKitty: has better performance
Him: And does not fit my needs.
Him: So fuck off.
SuicidalKitty: It's better than the m11x
SuicidalKitty: also
SuicidalKitty: you never answered my question
Him: Better is defined by perspective.
SuicidalKitty: why not carry the 14"
SuicidalKitty: ?
Him: Because I could have something I DON'T need to carry.
SuicidalKitty: I think when you save $200, and get a nicer laptop, it'd be worth it to carry it
Him: I don't think you get it.
Him: I have requirements, and what you are suggesting does not fit them.
SuicidalKitty: why?
Him: BATTERY FUCKING LIFE.
Him: gOD.
Him: God*.
SuicidalKitty: what if the 14" had optimus?
Him: Then it would almost fit my requirements.
SuicidalKitty: what are the rest of your requirements?
Him: There are no more other than being decently capable of pushing graphics.
Him: Except that, 'better performance' will always come at a cost of battery life.
SuicidalKitty: only if the gpu was better
Him: CPU counts also, genius.
SuicidalKitty: to you it doesn't
SuicidalKitty: you said you don't need a good cpu
Him: In terms of battery life, it does.
Him: If I have an unnescessarily powerful CPU, it wastes energy.
SuicidalKitty: The m11x has a shitty cpu. my phone almost has a faster cpu than it
Him: Cool.
SuicidalKitty: what if you could save $200 and get almost the same laptop with a better cpu?
SuicidalKitty: sounds like a deal to me.
SuicidalKitty: even if I have to carry it, or buy a bigger backpack
Him: I don't care what it sounds like to you.
SuicidalKitty: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152298 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152298)
SuicidalKitty: Just because the m11x looks sexy, that doesn't mean it performs like a baws
Him: I know what the FUCKING THING IS, WHY CAN'T YOU FUCKING ACCEPT THAT?
Him: Move on with your fucking life, and stay out of mine.
SuicidalKitty: I'm just trying to save you money and get you better performance
SuicidalKitty: no need to lose your shit on me
Him: You are pushing this shit when I have already said, 'I know what I am getting into.'
SuicidalKitty: don't be so single-minded, acknowledge other suggestions
SuicidalKitty: when people provide suggestions, they're not doing that to piss you off, they're doing that to help you
Him: I already told you I know what I need.
Him: You are not considering MY position.
SuicidalKitty: you want good performance, small screen size, and large battery life
SuicidalKitty: and something portable
SuicidalKitty: first of all
SuicidalKitty: all laptops are portable
SuicidalKitty: if one's slightly too big
SuicidalKitty: carry it if you have to
Him: You know what, just forget it.
SuicidalKitty: if you want performance, the m11x doesn't even meet the minimum requirements of most of today's games
SuicidalKitty: alright
SuicidalKitty: i'll drop it
SuicidalKitty: but don't come crying to me when you realize you bought a $1000 piece of shit
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Tell him hes full of shit, and couldnt code an html document to say hello.
--Him: It also contains my collection of programming books.
-Narc or bullshitting
--Him: If I have an unnescessarily powerful CPU, it wastes energy.
-2430m is a sandybridge series CPU. That shit is 35w TDP. Any fuckwad jr high computer elec student would know that a sandybridge makes a lightbulb look like a goddamn machine shop.
Refused to read after this. Whoever your friend is, again, tell him he is full of shit
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That guy is one stubborn asshole.
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That guy is one stubborn asshole.
Its some 10 year old posing as a sup4 1337 c0d3r who ignores all opinions because he thinks its pretty.
The kind of person who blindly spends 15K on a watch the he was told is a fake.
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We never mentioned the incident where he told us the MX11 was better because he said it had an "EU CPU/Processor chip". True story. He also claimed he installed mechanical-keyswitches on a laptop (google mechanical keyboard) which is impossible. And every time I asked him for a picture "Sorry, I don't have a camera". But then a day or two later. "I am writing a book using an iPhone 4"