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Title: [1 Hour] First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Roach :3 on December 31, 2011, 11:10:57 AM
1. Players Nickname
Mr.Gusta, Kahuna, Traitor.
SteamID's:
STEAM_0:0:25129985
STEAM_0:0:46743520
STEAM_0:1:37610332

2. Your in-game name
TheRoach

3. Server name (Wirebuild, Zombie Survival)
Trouble in terrorist town

4. Description of the event(s)
Some thing happened that I was unaware of.
After few minutes I hear Kahuna say "Kill ArTek he has low karma."
I assumed it was revenge RDM, as the round started Mr.Gusta killed/shot ArTek to get his attention and even kill him.
Round later same was with Traitor, he started shooting him and killed him.
Kahuna helped them and shot ArTek too.

5. Reason for ban
Excommunication, Revenge kill, First blood kill.

6. Screenshots or demo(s) | Optional console log(s)
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Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Mr. Franklin on December 31, 2011, 11:16:32 AM
If it was one person intentionally killing another person once or twice, then it is not RDM
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Roach :3 on December 31, 2011, 11:17:43 AM
They killed him without a reason because his karma was low.
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Mr. Franklin on December 31, 2011, 11:36:46 AM
Quote from: TheRoach on December 31, 2011, 11:17:43 AM
They killed him without a reason because his karma was low.

Was more than one person killed?
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Apie2 on December 31, 2011, 11:48:10 AM
Where is the proof?
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Roach :3 on December 31, 2011, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: Mr. Franklin on December 31, 2011, 11:36:46 AM
Was more than one person killed?
No...
Apie check the logs.
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Sabb on December 31, 2011, 11:58:16 AM
The most that I could do here is ban each of them for an hour... which probably isn't worth it as they're probably not even in the servers. The proof is only good enough for first blood RDM on each of them. If you had 3 different pictures for each at LEAST to prove that they did it very repetitively, then they would get longer. You also didn't copy/past the Steam ID. I would really rather not look at the image and type out 3 different Steam ID's. If you paste the Steam ID's soon, I will approve it and give each a 1 hour ban.
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Mr. Franklin on December 31, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
Listen, the definition of RDM is one person preforming a mass-killing, like 5-7 people at one time.
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Roach :3 on December 31, 2011, 12:57:41 PM
That's the problem, they were killing him because he had low karma around 10 so they're karma didn't really change.
After three rounds of ArTek getting killing at the beginning of the round he just left so I couldn't get any proof anymore.
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Travelsonic on December 31, 2011, 01:13:06 PM
Quote from: Mr. Franklin on December 31, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
Listen, the definition of RDM is one person preforming a mass-killing, like 5-7 people at one time.

I thought that was the criterion of what is reportable/bannable here - and that RDM simply means "Random" death match - the definition lending itself to the presumption that it is the killing without reason, regardless of the number of times done/not done (> 0 of course).
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Apie2 on December 31, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
Quote from: TheRoach on December 31, 2011, 11:52:20 AM
No...
Apie check the logs.
Lol I only can see the one with the steam ID's...
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Sabb on December 31, 2011, 04:29:23 PM
Quote from: Mr. Franklin on December 31, 2011, 12:04:44 PM
Listen, the definition of RDM is one person preforming a mass-killing, like 5-7 people at one time.
Franklin, please... stop...
The definition of RDM is literally random death match. The person doesn't have to kill anyone, and doesn't have to kill 5-7 people by any means to be RDMing. It doesn't matter either way though... the report is for target RDM/first blood RDM. For the target RDM part there's not enough proof, killing low karma people is allowed anyways. Part of the game. First blood RDM isn't though.
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Mr. Franklin on December 31, 2011, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: Sabb on December 31, 2011, 04:29:23 PM
Franklin, please... stop...
The definition of RDM is literally random death match. The person doesn't have to kill anyone, and doesn't have to kill 5-7 people by any means to be RDMing. It doesn't matter either way though... the report is for target RDM/first blood RDM. For the target RDM part there's not enough proof, killing low karma people is allowed anyways. Part of the game. First blood RDM isn't though.

I was just helping him, by giving him a definition of rdm.
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Tiger Guy on December 31, 2011, 04:37:21 PM
Quote from: Sabb on December 31, 2011, 04:29:23 PM
Franklin, please... stop...
The definition of RDM is literally random death match. The person doesn't have to kill anyone, and doesn't have to kill 5-7 people by any means to be RDMing. It doesn't matter either way though... the report is for target RDM/first blood RDM. For the target RDM part there's not enough proof, killing low karma people is allowed anyways. Part of the game. First blood RDM isn't though.
Wait, so low karma RDM is allowed?
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Don on December 31, 2011, 05:32:39 PM
Quote from: Tiger Guy on December 31, 2011, 04:37:21 PM
Wait, so low karma RDM is allowed?
It's just like regular RDM, except slightly better.
Title: Re: First blood RDM and other shit.
Post by: Sabb on December 31, 2011, 05:51:54 PM
Quote from: DoeniDon on December 31, 2011, 05:32:39 PM
It's just like regular RDM, except slightly better.
That lol.
It's allowed to an extent. The same as regular RDM is.
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Dark Pacifist on December 31, 2011, 08:30:06 PM
The point is that if it's the same person "rdming" the low karma round after round in a way that keeps the persons karma low it becomes a bigger issue I've had to explain this to Traitor and Gusta before.
As well I told them that if it's more than twice in a row it becomes target rdm and is punishable.
If I'm wrong about this please correct me.
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Sabb on January 01, 2012, 03:59:37 PM
I kind of need to know who's Steam ID is who's. Just post it in the topic so that I'll see it. (don't only edit the OP)
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: memo3300 on January 01, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
STEAM_0:0:25129985 - Kahuna

STEAM_0:0:46743520 - Traitor

STEAM_0:1:37610332 - Mr.gusta
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Kahuna on January 01, 2012, 09:36:41 PM
I only did this the first round when he had 10 karma.
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: aerobro on January 01, 2012, 09:42:14 PM
artek was probably an rdmer himself why not report him?
and kahuna is innocent he never killed but he only shot the guy one time for little damage.
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Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Roach :3 on January 02, 2012, 04:32:07 AM
Quote from: Kahuna on January 01, 2012, 09:36:41 PM
I only did this the first round when he had 10 karma.
You made Gusta and Traitor kill ArTek.
That's why he raged, and that's why I'm not posting anything against him, maybe he didn't know how to play or something else.
While he did that thing I was AFK or gone.
I don't care about the RDM, the thing that got me annoyed is the point that you made other players go against ArTek.
Title: Re: First blood kill and other shit.
Post by: Sabb on January 02, 2012, 07:34:27 AM
Sorry Kahuna, it's still first blood RDM. If you want to RDM low karma people, do it when the round is running slowly. Not 2 seconds into the round.
All banned for an hour.